Nikon Announces D40x

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by C J Campbell, Mar 6, 2007.

  1. C J Campbell

    RichA Guest

    $10 the D200 and D2x were made in Japan while the D80 was
    made...elsewhere.
     
    RichA, Mar 8, 2007
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  2. C J Campbell

    RichA Guest

    Bit of a conundrum, given that the anti-dust systems in these cameras
    actuate each time they are powered on.

    Mark my words: Just like I said with the Canon people who criticized
    anti-dust/live LCD systems...until Canon adopted them! Nikon owners
    will do the same when Nikon adopts an anti-dust system.
    The more forward thinking are either supporting the idea, or keeping
    quiet.

    The telling thing is this: I have never seen an Olympus (E-1, E-300,
    E-500, E-330, E-400) produced image that displayed dust problems, not
    one, and I've seen thousands of images from them. I have seen many
    examples of dust with cameras that don't have an anti-dust system.
    I'm not saying dust on an Olympus image is impossible, but based on
    experience, it must be rare.
     
    RichA, Mar 8, 2007
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  3. C J Campbell

    Mark² Guest

    BS.
    I haven't seen any cheering for the dust feature on the 1D Mark III.
    What I DO think is helpful is the dust subtraction software capability.
    This is a very good alternative. It remains to be seen how well the
    vibration technique works... I remain skeptical.
     
    Mark², Mar 9, 2007
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  4. C J Campbell

    Proconsul Guest

    You lose - my D200 was made (and very well made) in Thailand.....

    PC
     
    Proconsul, Mar 9, 2007
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  5. C J Campbell

    C J Campbell Guest

    You owe me $10. None of the D200 or D2x cameras are made in Japan. They are
    all made in Thailand.
     
    C J Campbell, Mar 9, 2007
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  6. C J Campbell

    RichA Guest

    Only a fool would prefer software that mutilates an image to remove
    dust, post-image, nstead of a system that actually removes the dust
    before the image is taken.
     
    RichA, Mar 9, 2007
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  7. C J Campbell

    RichA Guest

    Oh my God! That's disgusting! Poor Nikon!
    Send me a paypal email and I'll send the money.
     
    RichA, Mar 9, 2007
    #27
  8. C J Campbell

    Bill Funk Guest

    During pre-production, it should be relatively easy to prove this.
    Camreas do not spring up, fully developed, at the day of announcement.
    Quiter possible; but this does not mean they are worth anything.
    You seriously want me to take *your* word on something as being
    definitive?

    --
    The New York Times reported
    Barack Obama made investments
    in companies owned by his
    campaign donors, then tried
    to help them with legislation.
    He says he didn't know he owned
    their stock. Scooter Libby
    watched his performance and
    gave it a seven.
     
    Bill Funk, Mar 9, 2007
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  9. C J Campbell

    Bill Funk Guest

    Do you see why I can not accept what you say as definitive?
    The country of productiuon has what, exactly, to do with how much dust
    a camera picks up?

    --
    The New York Times reported
    Barack Obama made investments
    in companies owned by his
    campaign donors, then tried
    to help them with legislation.
    He says he didn't know he owned
    their stock. Scooter Libby
    watched his performance and
    gave it a seven.
     
    Bill Funk, Mar 9, 2007
    #29
  10. C J Campbell

    Robert Brace Guest

    More BS. Does it never stop?
    The D2X are (or were), in fact, made in Japan as also was the D2H.
    Just a radical thought to have the said cameras in hand and read the labels
    prior to issuing such drivel. You never know, someone who knows no better
    might just believe you.
    Bob
     
    Robert Brace, Mar 9, 2007
    #30
  11. He's right about the D200 as it's made in Thailand. You are right, the
    D2x(s) are made in Japan.

    http://www.geocities.com/ritaberk2007/pics/d2xs_jap.jpg






    Rita
     
    Rita Ä Berkowitz, Mar 9, 2007
    #31
  12. C J Campbell

    Mark² Guest

    Ha. That's great, except that if you notice dust AFTER shooting, it's an
    excellent alternative to removing everything via cloning...which is
    significantly worse, and also means losing true detail. Most dust evidence
    results only in a darkening of spots, and not a true loss of detail. The
    subtractive software create custom corrective actions based entirely upon
    the exact location of the dust, and is very intelligently implemented. You
    should read up on it. If you'd prefer cloning out 1000 images' worth of
    dust spots...more power to you.
     
    Mark², Mar 10, 2007
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  13. C J Campbell

    RichA Guest

    It is STILL just like read forward and patch software used in CD/DVD
    playback correction, a patch, not true detail, substituting adjacent
    pixels for obscured ones.
    Unless you think that magically, the software can "see" what the lens
    couldn't relay past the dust specs?
    You know the best way to minimize the need for this software? A
    WORKING anti-dust system that keeps dust particles on the sensor to a
    minimum AND keeps the sizes of the dust specs left on the sensor to
    below a certain threshold. If you think the software can eliminate
    all these problems by itself, then why even bother cleaning the fronts
    of lenses or filters? Just let the dirt and dust build-up, because
    the software will "fix" the image, restore the lost detail, contrast,
    etc.
     
    RichA, Mar 10, 2007
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  14. C J Campbell

    Mark² Guest

    But that isn't usually how dust specs show up. Rarely to they completely
    obscure the image. Normally, they look more like slightly darkened
    areas...not full blockage. Perhaps if you owned a DSLR you'd be more
    familiar with this.
    Of course. But we're dealing with what's out there right now, aren't we.

    If you think the software can eliminate
    No Rich. We (not you...rather those with DSLRs) clean our sensors when they
    need it. But sometimes you don't know it until after a shoot.
     
    Mark², Mar 10, 2007
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