Nikon Busted For Industrial Espionage!

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Rita Berkowitz, May 10, 2008.

  1. Nikon was caught stealing lens design and manufacturing techniques from
    Canon and incorporating them into their latest lenses. After conclusive
    tests it has been determined that Nikon is using the same formula for their
    space age material as Canon. Even little subtleties in the lens mount have
    been stolen from Canon. This is going to be a major blemish on Nikon's
    reputation.

    <http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1021&thread=27845443>




    Rita
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    Rita Berkowitz, May 10, 2008
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  2. Maybe this is all a sign of evolution of patent laws. In the past it
    was much more common for lens designs to be generic. It used to be
    one had to have NOVEL designs to get a patent. Now, the patent
    agencies are more and more letting the courts determine whether
    something is novel or not. I don't believe juries or judges are best
    qualified to determine whether a design is just standard engineering
    practice, or is really novel and advancing the state of the art.

    I DO think there has been tremendous advances in lens design,
    materials, and manufacture, but it has been much more a case of
    evolution than revolution.
     
    Don Stauffer in Minnesota, May 10, 2008
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    Mr.T Guest

    Mr.T, May 10, 2008
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    Ali Guest

    Bit OT, but for anyone that's interested, how a Canon lens is made (video is
    in three parts due to youtube restrictions):
     
    Ali, May 10, 2008
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    Robert Coe Guest

    : Nikon was caught stealing lens design and manufacturing techniques from
    : Canon and incorporating them into their latest lenses. After conclusive
    : tests it has been determined that Nikon is using the same formula for their
    : space age material as Canon. Even little subtleties in the lens mount have
    : been stolen from Canon. This is going to be a major blemish on Nikon's
    : reputation.

    Getting ready to switch sides again are you, Rita?
     
    Robert Coe, May 10, 2008
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    stu7seven Guest

    stu7seven, May 10, 2008
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  7. Nicholas O. Lindan, May 10, 2008
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  8. Nikon learned this from Canon. What better way to get free advertising? It
    seems Nikon wants a piece of the action as well.



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    Rita Berkowitz, May 11, 2008
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  9. Now that was a cool video. The only thing that troubled me about it is the
    lack of QA in the manufacturing steps and the careless attitude of Canon
    letting workers assemble these lenses what appears to *NOT* be a clean room
    and the worker lacking a hair net and gloves. Might as well assemble the
    old 500 out in a dust storm.



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    Rita Berkowitz, May 11, 2008
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  10. On the contrary. I'm glad to see Nikon have a FUCKPAW with this lens as it
    will drive the price of classic Nikkors up. I'm a bit disappointed in Nikon
    opting to follow Canon's lead on sub par pro lenses with plastic barrels and
    short screws.



    Rita
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    Rita Berkowitz, May 11, 2008
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  11. Rita Berkowitz, May 11, 2008
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  12. do you get dizzy spinning all this shit about Nikon ??
     
    Atheist Chaplain, May 11, 2008
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  13. I did. Your link doesn't work. It identifies a forum but not an
    article.
     
    Chris Malcolm, May 11, 2008
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    Yoshi Guest

    Rita doesn't understand computers any better than cameras. Apparently it's
    just point and push buttons.
     
    Yoshi, May 11, 2008
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    Mark Sieving Guest

    Your link points to a forum discussion about whether manufacturers'
    warranties should cover damage from accidents.
     
    Mark Sieving, May 11, 2008
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  16. Now I like the japanese even more. Now I see why it's impossible to do any
    repairs in any high-end appliance. Who can match the skill of these
    technicians? Well done, kyanon again (Canon in japanese). (My Pixma iP 4300,
    its original cartridges and paper are made in japan, probably one of the
    last products to do so).
     
    Tzortzakakis Dimitrios, May 11, 2008
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  17. What accidents? The lens fell apart due to a poor choice of materials and
    hardware. This is something everyone expects from Canon not Nikon.




    Rita
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    Rita Berkowitz, May 11, 2008
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    Ali Guest

    I wasn't looking to see if the person assembling the lens was wearing a hair
    net, but I did notice 'condoms' were used on the fingers.
     
    Ali, May 11, 2008
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  19. Is this what you were referring to?

    http://www.sptimes.ru/index.php?action_id=2&story_id=18527


    Craig Schroeder
    craig nospam craigschroeder com
     
    Craig Schroeder, May 11, 2008
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    Paul Furman Guest

    "The men, whose names were not disclosed, conspired in the theft of the
    device, called a variable optical attenuator, the police spokesman said."

    The 18-200 VR?
     
    Paul Furman, May 11, 2008
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