Nikon D-Lighting

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Paul Furman, Dec 10, 2007.

  1. Paul Furman

    Paul Furman Guest

    Any thoughts on the Nikon D-Lighting scheme? I'm not inclined to be
    impressed by it but was talking to a guy said he read the programmer
    claimed this routine 'could do things that cannot be done any other way'
    <paraphrased> and I said of course it could be done with a raw file,
    maybe less hassle with the D-Lighting stuff though.

    Is this available on the D80, D40? Any firmware upgrade for D200? I
    assume the Capture NX version is not in the free download. I'd guess it
    wouldn't take much to duplicate with a photoshop action.
     
    Paul Furman, Dec 10, 2007
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    Here's a good summary:
    http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1039&message=25860702
     
    Paul Furman, Dec 10, 2007
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    Not4wood Guest

    I've been looking at that option in my Retouch Menu for my D80 and haven't
    gotten around to playing with it yet.

    Interesting reading thanks Paul. My question is when applied its after the
    shot was taken, so does this effect make a duplicate copy of the original
    shot or are you working on the original? So, if this is the case then your
    better off taking two shots and applying the D-Lighting Effect to only one
    of them as a just in case. Is this correct??

    Not4wood
     
    Not4wood, Dec 10, 2007
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    C J Campbell Guest

    If there is a Photoshop action that exactly duplicates D-Lighting I am
    not aware of it.

    The thing about D-Lighting, especially as implemented in Capture NX, is
    the use of control points. It is as if you could have a different curve
    for many different areas of the picture. You can do this somewhat with
    CS3, but it is not as seamless.

    In-camera D-Lighting does not seem to me as likely to be as useful as
    the D-Lighting in Capture NX, specifically because I don't know if or
    how control points are implemented in the D300, but perhaps as we learn
    more about these cameras we will be able to form some kind of consensus
    on when and how it should be used.
     
    C J Campbell, Dec 10, 2007
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    OK, I didn't know about the control points, that's nice. I usually use a
    big soft eraser on adjustment layers. It's not one step but I can do it
    differently for each situation.
    I think the main point of in-camera is that it underexposes to preserve
    highlights then does a fill light type action on it. Of course that's
    only for jpegs. I would use it if there was a firmware upgrade but I
    guess that's not an option on the D200, though the D80 came out just a
    few months later.
     
    Paul Furman, Dec 10, 2007
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    I don't know. My D200 has no retouch menu.
     
    Paul Furman, Dec 10, 2007
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  7. Nikon copied the Apical routines (www.ukapical.com) which they once
    licensed for the Coolpix range. The process is adaptive and analytical.
    Active D-Lighting has minimal effect; retouch menu D-Lighting is highly
    effective, and the localised tonal changes can not be imitated in
    Photoshop, and are not imitated by CaptureNX, which uses a more
    shadow/highlight based variant.

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    David Kilpatrick, Dec 11, 2007
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    Ah, so there was something to what he heard. I wonder why they didn't
    use it in Capture? Very odd that it only works well in the retouch menu,
    maybe they licensed it for that... It appears to be better than the HDR
    programs, or they just show examples which don't show the halo problems
    I've experienced while experimenting with HDR. Odd that they don't
    license it as a post-processing software or photoshop plugin.

    From that site:
    Memory-True Imaging
    Enables cameras to see the world in the same way as the human visual
    system. Users capture images which closely match their own memory of the
    original scene.

    Adaptive Digital ISO
    A digital camera shooting mode in which each pixel of each image has an
    individual ISO value within a preset ISO range, adaptively calculated
    based on scene content.
     
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