Nikon D100 vs 4x5 field camera side-by-side enlargement

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by ., Jan 22, 2008.

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    Max Perl Guest

    It sounds a bit funny in Danish. We have many brick walls in Denmark and you
    just
    have to write "mur" in danish......then "in between the lines" people often
    understand it
    as a brick wall as many houses are build using bricks to build the
    walls......

    Yes.....relaxing to use a film camera......e.g. a good quality rangefinder
    in the city.....and
    let the lens do the job instead of PhotoShop........ :)
     
    Max Perl, Jan 25, 2008
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    Scott W Guest

    Your "Lord of the Ring" images is a good way of putting it, a style
    that I don't like but many do.

    I don't believe that digital is to blame as much as people going
    overboard with the post processing. I use to participate in a weekly
    photo contest, one that is just for fun, the images that tend to win
    are the heavily processed image.

    But to me a lot of film shots that I see have that over saturated high
    contrast look, as in Kodachrome slides.

    As 4x6 inch prints I doubt that you could tell my film prints from my
    digital, at larger sizes the digital stand out for lack of grain.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Jan 26, 2008
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    Max Perl Guest

    "Scott W" <> skrev i en meddelelse
    Your "Lord of the Ring" images is a good way of putting it, a style
    that I don't like but many do.

    I don't believe that digital is to blame as much as people going
    overboard with the post processing. I use to participate in a weekly
    photo contest, one that is just for fun, the images that tend to win
    are the heavily processed image.

    But to me a lot of film shots that I see have that over saturated high
    contrast look, as in Kodachrome slides.

    As 4x6 inch prints I doubt that you could tell my film prints from my
    digital, at larger sizes the digital stand out for lack of grain.

    Scott


    I still like my D2x a lot and use it much......but I also enjoy using film
    from time to time and found out some post processing is done already
    when you push the trigger compared to digital raw.

    The Photo contests here......it is also "Lord of the Rings" images which
    wins.
    Also when you look at the catalogs after af contest you see a lot of these
    images.

    Some of the older lenses have a bit lower contrast........and it gives a
    plesant
    look when used on film. But you can of course tweek the colors and contrast
    in Photoshop to get the same look.

    A projected 24x36 slide still looks very good when projeted to form a 2x3m
    image
    if you are in the right viewing distance.

    Max
     
    Max Perl, Jan 26, 2008
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    TH O Guest

    I have to agree with this totally. While specific brands of film can add
    their own unique style and color to an image, no film could change a
    scene into some of the images we see modified through photoshop. The
    Photo.net galleries are a perfect example. Many of the images are so
    doctored that they are obviously not the least bit representative of the
    actual scene (The "Lord of the Rings" reference by Max fits here).
     
    TH O, Jan 26, 2008
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    Max Perl Guest

    People which creates these images are calling themselves photo artists but I
    think they often "overdo" the images after my taste and it often look
    unnatural.
    It is ok to enhance some elements to express what you think you saw when
    you took the picture......like Ansel Adams did?

    How would his pictures look like if he still was alive?
     
    Max Perl, Jan 26, 2008
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    Tony Polson Guest


    I think he's probably spinning in his grave. ;-)
     
    Tony Polson, Jan 26, 2008
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    Max Perl Guest

    He went from large format til Hasselblad? .....or at least used it for
    some of his pictures.....so
    he would probably also have gone digital?
     
    Max Perl, Jan 26, 2008
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    TH O Guest

    The photo.net images are definitely at the extreme. Even some recent pro
    photos don't look realistic to me -- http://wildphoto.smugmug.com/ by
    Marc Adamus comes to mind.
     
    TH O, Jan 27, 2008
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  9. The photo.net images are definitely at the extreme. Even some recent pro
    These are to photography what Thomas Kincaides are to painting.....Pushed
    just over the edge of reality into the surreal. But it is surprising how
    many people like this technique, and if you're trying to make a living
    selling your stuff........
     
    William Graham, Jan 27, 2008
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    Max Perl Guest

    These images are not the worst I have seen. He has probably picked the right
    time of the
    day to take his images so the light was perfect. He uses long exposures to
    smooth out the
    water etc. Maybe his images are a bit to "warm" in the colors compared to
    what it really
    looked like. But I don't think he has copied new skies into the images etc.?
     
    Max Perl, Jan 27, 2008
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    Tony Polson Guest


    I have no doubt that he would - but he would be using a scanning back
    on 4x5" and a 39 MP digital Hasselblad H3. He would find the limited
    dynamic range of smaller digital formats quite frustrating.

    I wish I could be guided through getting the best out of digital in
    the same way that reading my large collection of Adams' books has
    guided me through using film. I haven't yet found anyone with a
    similarly thorough and methodical approach to the new medium.
     
    Tony Polson, Jan 27, 2008
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    TH O Guest

    Surprising it is ... I've seen a bunch of references to Adamus' photos
    in Pop Photography and Outdoor Photography. Why these "experts" can't
    see how unrealistic these photos look is beyond me.
     
    TH O, Jan 27, 2008
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    TH O Guest

    I agree about the timing and exposure. His bio claims that "WHEN DIGITAL
    ADJUSTMENTS OR CORRECTIONS ARE MADE, IT IS ALWAYS LIMITED TO FINE TUNING
    OF EXPOSURE, COLOR AND TONES. ABSOLUTELY NONE OF THE IMAGES HERE ARE
    COMPUTER GENERATED!" The color changes don't appear to be "fine tuning"
    .... they appear to be significant. Many of his skies appear very
    unrealistic ... I suspect HDR and overdoing the adjustments.
     
    TH O, Jan 27, 2008
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    Max Perl Guest

    Many of his images has a kind of soft dreaming look to them and some looks
    like a painting.
    But he travles 200 days at year and so he uses his whole life to take
    pictures.....so of course he
    hits some light other people maybe never experience :) .....have to get
    early op in the morning :)
    I am surprised if he does not do more in Photoshop than small
    adjustments.....but if he says so.....we
    must belive him......
     
    Max Perl, Jan 27, 2008
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