Nikon D40 shipping today

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Neil Harrington, Dec 2, 2006.

  1. From Camera World / Ritz.

    Just ordered mine minutes ago. Really looking forward to this -- I've been
    waiting for something substantially smaller and lighter than my D70s with
    18-70, and this looks perfect.

    Also, for us Ken Rockwell fans (both of us ;-) ), he just got his and
    reviews it here:
    http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40.htm

    Neil
     
    Neil Harrington, Dec 2, 2006
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  2. You've got to be shitting me. You have a D70 and you want a D40?

    Gary Eickmeier
     
    Gary Eickmeier, Dec 2, 2006
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  3. Neil Harrington

    Paul Rubin Guest

    Why not? It's a lot smaller and works just as well (i.e. barely) with
    MF lenses.
     
    Paul Rubin, Dec 2, 2006
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  4. Neil Harrington

    [BnH] Guest

    hmm .. do you realise D40 does not support lenses with non SWM motor ? hence
    you must focus manually ?
    therefore you can't buy the dirt cheap but good AF 50/1.8 D for your low
    light lens ?

    =bob=
     
    [BnH], Dec 2, 2006
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  5. Neil Harrington

    Paul Rubin Guest

    You have to focus all MF lenses manually on both the D40 and the D70.
    Because I use the even better and still fairly cheap MF 50/1.4 and
    35/1.4 for my low light lenses. The 58/1.2 Noct that I really want is
    still way expensive despite being MF :)
     
    Paul Rubin, Dec 2, 2006
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  6. Yep. For the reason stated, and anyway I just like Nikons and have 'em in
    all sizes.

    Neil
     
    Neil Harrington, Dec 2, 2006
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  7. Neil Harrington

    Bill Guest

    Out of curiosity, how many and which models do you have in your
    possession?
     
    Bill, Dec 2, 2006
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  8. And loose metering. non-D lenses meter only on the D200 and up.
     
    Jeroen Wenting, Dec 2, 2006
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  9. Neil Harrington

    Joan Guest

    I'd question that.

    --
    Joan
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/joan-in-manly

    "Jeroen Wenting" <jwenting at hornet dot demon dot nl> wrote in
    message : And loose metering. non-D lenses meter only on the D200 and up.
    :
    :
     
    Joan, Dec 2, 2006
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  10. Starting with the littlest and working up, I have (one of each) Coolpix
    4600, 5200, 5900, 7900, 5400, 8400, 8700 and 8800. And the D70s with the
    18-70 kit lens, 50/1.8 D, 10.5/2.8 DX and I've ordered the new 70-300 VR. A
    week or so ago I bought the cheapo 55-200 to go with the D40 kit I knew I'd
    be getting.

    Neil
     
    Neil Harrington, Dec 2, 2006
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  11. Neil Harrington

    Paul Rubin Guest

    Correct. The D40 works exactly as well (or as badly) with MF lenses
    as the D70.

    I decided to not be interested in a D200 given that there has to be a
    comparably priced FF model coming (or else Nikon will die).
     
    Paul Rubin, Dec 2, 2006
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  12. All this yearning for full frame reminds me that I'm old enough to remember
    when they said 35mm would never be good enough for serious work, you had to
    have 2¼ x 2¼ at least.

    I'll bet you 18,500 zorknids that full frame never makes up one percent of
    the digital SLR market -- whether Nikon ever makes such a dSLR or not.

    Neil
     
    Neil Harrington, Dec 2, 2006
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  13. I suspect that "full frame" DSLRs -- as a portion of the overall
    DSLR market -- willl be roughly the same as the top-end Nikons
    and Canons (eg. F4, EOS1v) were to to the general 35 mm
    film SLR market.


    rafe b
    www.terrapinphoto.com
     
    Raphael Bustin, Dec 2, 2006
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  14. Neil Harrington

    Paul Rubin Guest

    I think they're already below that level. The 5D is about where the
    Nikon F100 or Canon equivalent were in the late 35mm era, a distinct
    level below the top end. Canon has indicated it expects that all but
    its entry level DSLR's will be full frame at some point, i.e. full
    frame will reach the 20D/30D/D200 level if not the D80 level.
     
    Paul Rubin, Dec 2, 2006
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  15. Neil Harrington

    Le Patriote Guest

    some morons actually read the shit he wrotes ? lol
     
    Le Patriote, Dec 2, 2006
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  16. Did you really mean "below" or was that meant to be "above"?

    Can you give me a cite for that statement by Canon?

    Honestly, it's surprsing to me. How far into the future
    are they talking about?

    FF is going to have to come **way** down in price
    before it reaches any sort of mass market.


    rafe b
    www.terrapinphoto.com
     
    Raphael Bustin, Dec 2, 2006
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  17. Neil Harrington

    Paul Rubin Guest

    But it has already come way down in price, from the EOS-1DS to the 5D.
    Why would we expect it to not do keep coming way down in price again
    and again, just like any other high tech device? For that matter,
    look at what a D40 costs, compared with a Nikon D1 of a few years ago.

    A quick googling finds:

    http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/digital/full_frame_vs_aps-c.html

    "In fact Canon have said that they intend to eventually go the full
    frame route for all their DSLRs except for entry level models..."

    I'll interpret "entry level" as meaning the Digital Rebel series and
    Nikon equivalents up to and including the D80. So the claim is that
    FF will reach the Canon 30D/Nikon D200 level. It will surprise me if
    that doesn't happen this coming year. If Nikon comes out with such a
    model, I can't say I'd buy one immediately at that price, but it would
    at least get me interested.
     
    Paul Rubin, Dec 2, 2006
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  18. Right, from $8000 to $2500. When it drops to $1000,
    call me.

    In fact, the mass market doesn't buy camera bodies, it
    buys *cameras.*. Tiny, cheap ones. Disposable ones.


    Why? Because the vast majority of the "mass market"
    is already well-served by existing digital cameras, both
    P&S and DSLR.

    I expect them to get cheaper, faster, lighter. I expect
    them to get more and more "features." But in terms of
    image quality, they're already delivering what the
    "mass market" needs, and then some.


    rafe b
    www.terrapinphoto.com
     
    Raphael Bustin, Dec 2, 2006
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  19. Neil Harrington

    Paul Rubin Guest

    Well, there's THAT mass market, which is not the entry level DSLR market.
    The prediction was about non-entry-level DSLR's, which is $1000-1500 I guess.
    But FF is a "feature" just like 3CCD in camcorders, which in fact has made
    its way to the consumer level. And FF lets you use those nice wideangle
    primes which are useless on the D40/Rebel-D.
     
    Paul Rubin, Dec 2, 2006
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  20. That sounds about right to me. While I don't really know what percentage of
    SLRs sold the high-end Nikons and Canons made up, it must have been pretty
    small. I've owned a lot of SLRs since about 1960, *none* of them high-end
    professional bodies. And never felt the desire for one.

    Neil
     
    Neil Harrington, Dec 2, 2006
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