Nikon D40X and Photoshop CS3

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Mike Warren, Apr 28, 2007.

  1. Mike Warren

    Mike Warren Guest

    That's quite often the case with new camera models. You will need to
    wait for Adobe to include D40X support in the next release of ACR.

    I the mean time you could try removing ACR and installing Nikon View.

    In the past this would install 2 files in PS's plug-ins folder and
    allow basic importing of NEFs. I don't know if this still works with
    CS3 and the D40X though.
     
    Mike Warren, Apr 28, 2007
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  2. Mike Warren

    louise Guest

    I have just spent several hours on the phone with two techs
    from Adobe. I even sent them two raw files taken directly
    from my camera.

    It seems, they say, that CS3 cannot open the D40X raw files
    and does not support the D40X. It does support the D40.

    The second tech seemed very knowledgeable and had me ftp two
    NEF files. She could not open either of them although she
    states she can open NEF files from a D40.

    Does anyone know anything about this? And, perhaps more
    importantly, what's the best way to go? Adobe said they
    hope that the D40X will be included in their next upgrade :)

    TIA

    Louise
     
    louise, Apr 28, 2007
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  3. Mike Warren

    louise Guest

    Thanks for the suggestion - Nikon View can't read the raw
    files either - it can do a thumbnail, but it can't even use
    them in a slideshow. And it didn't install a viable plugin
    for CS3.

    So for the moment I'm usng the trial version of Nikon
    Capture NX and although I don't want to spend the money, I
    will, if Adobe doesn't get the plugin in time. The one
    saving grace is that Capture is quite a versatile and
    friendly program once you get used to its style.

    There is a newer "version" of Nikon View on their site
    called Picture Project and that does a better job with the
    RAW files - but still no plugin for PS.

    Louise
     
    louise, Apr 28, 2007
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  4. Mike Warren

    Pete D Guest

    Is the D40X supported in the Adobe DNG converter? If it is that may work for
    you.
     
    Pete D, Apr 28, 2007
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  5. Ed Ruf (REPLY to E-MAIL IN SIG!), Apr 28, 2007
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  6. In the past, new releases of ACR and DNG-c. has been "in sync" in
    respect to supported RAW formats. I haven't checked, but my guess
    is that one has to wait for the new release of both ACR and DNG-c.
    for D40x support.
     
    Gisle Hannemyr, Apr 28, 2007
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  7. Mike Warren

    Bill Funk Guest

    This may sound like a dumb question, but I haven't bought any Nikon
    DSLRs...
    Doesn't the software that came with the camera do the D40x's RAW
    images?

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    THIS IS A SIG LINE; NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY!

    The View on Disney-owned ABC dropped Rosie
    O'Donnell, even after she agreed to stop
    talking about George Bush. The president
    has no leverage over ABC. Disney is not a
    defense contractor, unless you count the
    war rationales we buy from Fantasyland.
     
    Bill Funk, Apr 28, 2007
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  8. Mike Warren

    C J Campbell Guest

    It generally takes Adobe and other software publishers (even the
    manufacturers) a few months to bring out a raw file reader for new
    cameras. Nikon Capture NX supports the D40x, but PictureProject and
    View do not yet support it. I would expect updates soon, at least for
    PictureProject. (Nikon is a little slower about View, which does not
    even support the D40 or D80 yet.)
     
    C J Campbell, Apr 28, 2007
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  9. Mike Warren

    C J Campbell Guest

    Nikon cameras usually ship with PictureProject, but no, it does not yet
    support the D40x raw file format. The most recent version on their site
    is 1.7.5, which was the update to support the D80 and the D40.

    Right now, only Capture NX supports the D40x.
     
    C J Campbell, Apr 28, 2007
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  10. Mike Warren

    Pete D Guest

    I think this is true only of Nikon Canon and Pentax at least have RAW
    support from the manufacturer with the release of the camera.
     
    Pete D, Apr 28, 2007
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  11. Mike Warren

    babaloo Guest

    As has been said Adobe will, sooner rather than later, issue an update for
    their raw converter to cover the D40x.
    They had a "beta" update to cover the D80 within a month of its release.
    I cannot understand why Nikon has a different file format for every dSLR and
    still calls the file *.nef. That is bad file naming convention and really
    ticks off consumers who find they cannot use software on a file that has the
    same format name as its predecessors.
    In any event I really encourage you to use the Nikon NX download.
    I have been using the Adobe raw converter since the inception of Nikon
    dSLRs.
    The new CS3 converter is now the Swiss army knife of converters.
    However once you undertand its gestalt the Nikon NX converter can be habit
    forming. The control points do not allow the absolute control of working in
    non-destructive layers but for many purposes are faster and more than
    adequate. The converter was actually developed by Nik and they really have
    come up with a different paradigm than Adobe.
     
    babaloo, Apr 28, 2007
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  12. Mike Warren

    RichA Guest


    Try this free program:

    http://www.irfanview.com/
     
    RichA, Apr 28, 2007
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  13. Mike Warren

    C J Campbell Guest

    Good heavens. How many file formats does Canon use?

    The reason the file format changes with every new camera is that, if
    nothing else, the sensor probably changes. Even if it does not change,
    the supporting chipset changes. All of that is likely to change file
    size, at the very least.

    Nikon has also been known to release firmware updates to existing
    cameras that can cause the raw file format to change.
     
    C J Campbell, Apr 28, 2007
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  14. Mike Warren

    louise Guest

    Nikon has a program, which I'm using for the moment, called
    Capture NX. The camera comes with a 30 day free trial of
    the software but after that.....you have to buy it for about
    $150!

    The only thing I can say in Nikon's favor is that it is
    quite a good piece of software and really allows for a lot
    of editing, particularly including the Kelvin temperatures
    and changing the white balance.

    Louise
     
    louise, Apr 29, 2007
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  15. Mike Warren

    louise Guest

    Are you suggesting that the Nikon NX program is and will be,
    superior in its abilities as compared to the CS3 plug in
    (when it is released)?

    I'm asking because I am using the NX on a trial at this
    point and am pretty impressed with its abilities. Do you
    think it will remain superior even after CS3 issues the plugin?

    Louise
     
    louise, Apr 29, 2007
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  16. Mike Warren

    C J Campbell Guest

    Of course, the quality of any raw converter is highly subjective. Nikon
    will issue a Photoshop raw converter plug-in that will probably be
    identical to the converter used by Capture NX. I will probably look
    better than Adobe's raw converter, except that Adobe's raw converter
    will have a lot more bells and whistles than Nikon's.
     
    C J Campbell, Apr 29, 2007
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  17. Mike Warren

    Bill Funk Guest

    Wow! That's, um, strange.
    Nikon sells you a camera, then doesn't provide software to use the
    features it has? Very basic features?

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    THIS IS A SIG LINE; NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY!

    The View on Disney-owned ABC dropped Rosie
    O'Donnell, even after she agreed to stop
    talking about George Bush. The president
    has no leverage over ABC. Disney is not a
    defense contractor, unless you count the
    war rationales we buy from Fantasyland.
     
    Bill Funk, Apr 30, 2007
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  18. Mike Warren

    C J Campbell Guest

    Oh, they do provide it. Nikon's free PictureProject will be updated
    eventually to use raw files.

    There are a number of people who think that Nikon should include
    Capture NX with at least the D2x and D200.

    I guess Nikon doesn't feel editing software is all that important. Kind
    of like the way Canon feels about lens hoods.
     
    C J Campbell, Apr 30, 2007
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  19. Most raw formats take some time for ACR to handle them correctly,
    regardless of camera manufacturer.
     
    Oliver Costich, Apr 30, 2007
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  20. Mike Warren

    wail

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    Try this

    Install Pictureperfect (that came with the camera)and take the Nef Plugin out of the Picture rerfect installed folder, then pop it in C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS3\Plug-Ins\File Formats Folder . then you can open d40x Nef/Raw files in Photoshop using the nikon plugin, it's not the best lot of Raw options but it works.
     
    wail, May 1, 2007
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