Nikon D40x ........ should I pull the trigger

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by SteveB, Jan 12, 2008.

  1. SteveB

    SteveB Guest

    Sorry, Peter. I'm going to use it for taking pictures.

    Steve
     
    SteveB, Jan 17, 2008
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    Peter Guest


    Congratulations on your unique concept.
     
    Peter, Jan 17, 2008
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  3. SteveB

    SteveB Guest

    Is there another answer?

    Steve
     
    SteveB, Jan 18, 2008
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    Peter Guest


    OK, I guess my comment was too subtle. Would you use the same setup for zoo
    photography, that you use for landscapes, or snapshots of the kids? If you
    are going to shoot in a rain forest would you want a water resistant box?
    Would you purchase a Nikon D3 with say, the 200 - 400 lens just to take
    snapshots of your kids, or for wedding photography?
     
    Peter, Jan 18, 2008
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  5. SteveB

    SteveB Guest

    I am not a professional photographer. If I were, I would not be asking a
    newbie question of such a broad nature. Basically, I just want a camera
    that will do better than the Sony DSC H1 I currently have, have more
    powerful lenses, have some additional features that are better than the
    Sony, and from there, take pictures of anything that interests me. I want a
    package that would cover a broad range and not be limited to one area or
    another.

    I have owned an Nikonos II, so am aware that a special environment requires
    a special camera. duh. In this world, things happen so fast that there may
    be an equal or better deal on a camera or an equal or better camera for the
    price. Just asking. Now, it seems these are going to be discontinued, and
    maybe I should wait six months. No worry, mate. I got lots of time, a
    camera that's paid for, lots of subjects, and I can wait to see what Nikon
    does next. In the meantime, I could win Lotto and buy everything. Let's
    see what happens this Saturday night.

    When I get to the point financially or photographically that I can just buy
    whatever I want, I won't be asking newbie questions on a basically entry
    level DSLR.

    Steve
     
    SteveB, Jan 18, 2008
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    Tully Guest

    One poster tried to give you a lot of opinions about photography in
    general, while another tried to help by asking for more information. I
    don't think anyone put you down for being a newbie. All of us are new to
    some aspect of photography or another.

    The one or two regular posters who always recommend going to a camera
    retailer and handling the items you are considering are right on. You
    can listen to an enthusiast describing a particular model, buy that one
    online, and become very disappointed when it arrives because something
    about it just doesn't feel right in your own hands.

    I love the D80 and wouldn't mind having a D200 or D300, but I don't like
    the D40/D40x, D50 or D70 nearly as much. It's so subjective that all an
    individual can offer is personal preference. Be wary of anyone who says
    either "Yes, a D40x would be PERFECT for you" or "No, you'll HATE that
    camera".
     
    Tully, Jan 18, 2008
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    Joel Guest

    And I just don't get what you are trying to say because professional or
    non-professional has nothing to do with the quality and what the camera is
    capable of, and that's what someone here is trying to say.

    You agree that $20 in a hand of some photographer like Rebecca (I think
    this is the same thread) can do the magical, and yours whatever film (?)
    camera I don't remember does better to make you happy than the digital
    cemara with long zoom (by getting closer to the bird then the zoom). What I
    am trying to say that using film cemera doesn't make you to become Rebecca
    overnight, and you get better image because you are closer, and the film may
    work different than digital cemera.

    And as I mentioned several times (few months ago) that most if not all P&S
    has shutter-delaying problem, so it's usually around more/less 1/2 second
    behind.
    I just say learn the limitation of whatever you have, don't expect much
    magical, and try not to make some excuse (or lower yourself down) by blowing
    someone else up saying cheapie $20 film camera can do better than DSLR
    current technology.

    And if you decide you save $$$ for DSLR, again I would suggest you to
    start learning post processing now, because depending of how fast/slow
    learning you are, it may take 1-2 years for fast learner, and 3-5 years for
    slower learner (like myself) with lot of practicing.
     
    Joel, Jan 18, 2008
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    SteveB Guest

    Been there, done that. Like the 80 MUCH more than the 40 in my hands, but
    the difference in price is considerable. I know the mechanics of the two
    cameras is apples and oranges, too. I just want to stay around a grand, but
    upon consideration may go for the 80 as I think there are more features and
    more combinations of glass.

    Steve
     
    SteveB, Jan 18, 2008
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    Peter Guest

    Then go for it and enjoy, (provided it won't keep you from putting food on
    the table.). If you don't, you will have that limitation difference in the
    back of your head every time you pick up the other. It could inhibit your
    enjoyment of photography.
     
    Peter, Jan 18, 2008
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    Joel there you go again.

    You can't seem to let go of whatever it is about Rebecca (a person) and her
    $20 Holga (a camera).

    Here's the big picture Joel. There would be no great photographs without
    great photographers. It's about the photographs and the photographers Joel
    and not the cameras. If you are making and selling cameras then it's about
    the cameras. Maybe you won't admit there were great photographs and great
    photographers before there were digital cameras. If you are blinded to that
    fact then it's too bad.

    There would be no great furniture without craftsmen. Sure craftsmen must
    have tools, but the craft comes out of the men not the tools. The valued
    furniture comes from craftsmen not from machines. It's the same with
    photography.

    With that said you do need specialized tools for specialized needs. If you
    are photographing underwater you better waterproof the camera. Or if you
    are photographing small, fast birds in the wild you will need specialized
    equipment. No arguement there.

    If I were buying a DSLR I would go with a Nikon or Canon (I own and use
    both) because they have the most lens choices and accessories available.
    Whichever you buy you can count on the camera being outdated within the
    year. With luck you probably can use your existing lens with the next
    incarnation of the camera. My "outdated" D70 works fine for what I do and
    I don't feel compelled to go out and purchase a current model with the idea
    it will make me a better photographer. That would be like rationalizing
    that buying a new car would make me a better driver.
     
    Etta Ray Newberry, Jan 18, 2008
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    Peter Guest

    Now you've gone too far. Watta mean by saying a new car won't make you a
    better driver. Just look at all the Beamers, hummers and Benzes. Do you
    really think A-holes would be owning the road if they had ordinary cars?
     
    Peter, Jan 19, 2008
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  12. SteveB

    SteveB Guest

    I will just add my two pennies from my own experience ..........

    Yes, craftsmen turn out good products even if they have only basic hand
    tools. Look at the pyramids and lots of other things built with the most
    basic of tools.

    Our situation today is different. Let's say carpentry, for example. A
    person with average talent, BUT possessing a top quality table saw, jointer,
    and other precision tools can turn out quality finished products.

    I am one of the first to say that photography is a blend of composition,
    balance, perspective, vantage point, opportunity, and other tangibles. And
    then there are just intangibles that some photographers seem to "have" and
    others lack. Good photographers will consistently turn out better work with
    inferior cameras than average photographers will with superior equipment.

    Photography is like being able to play a piano. Lots of people can LEARN to
    play the piano to a level that is considered talented by the average
    listener. But then there are those who are truly TALENTED who don't really
    need to LEARN how to play the piano, but to refine their talent to the nth
    degree.

    It's all in the ultimate photo and nothing else before that is really
    important. But then, it is in the eye of the beholder because what is junk
    to one viewer is art to the next. If it is all so easy to these armchair
    connoisseurs, I say go get a camera and try it.

    Steve
     
    SteveB, Jan 19, 2008
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  13. SteveB

    SteveB Guest

    I parked cars in Las Vegas during the golden years of the sixties and
    seventies. We had a belief then that if you WEREN'T a total asshole, the
    dealership wouldn't sell you a Beemer. Worst tippers next to doctors on the
    planet. Just a bunch of neurotic Mercedes owner wannabes.

    Steve
     
    SteveB, Jan 19, 2008
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