Nikon D50 or Canon 350D

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by alex, Sep 13, 2005.

  1. alex

    alex Guest

    Thinking up upgrading my Kodak 6940 to a proper DSLR.

    focusing on the two above. Not too fussed on 8mp vs 6mp.

    Any views ... from a beginner to DSLR perspective of course.

    Alex
     
    alex, Sep 13, 2005
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    Eatmorepies Guest

    I bought the Canon 350D - it's excellent (as the Nikon probably is). If you
    buy the Canon you will not be diappointed. I also invested in L lenses, then
    when Canon produce a full frame sensor camera for reasonable money (2 or 3
    years away perhaps) I will have a good set of lenses.

    I don't know how big you can print from the Nikon but I am producing 32cm
    by 48cm prints from the Canon and they are very very good.

    John
     
    Eatmorepies, Sep 13, 2005
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    lacunae Guest

    I'd definitely second this. Go to a store and try all of the cameras
    you're considering in person. See how they feel/fit in your hands, run
    through some settings, take a few shots. If you have your own memory
    cards already, bring a couple with you (CF for the Canons and D70, SD for
    the D50), so that you can see what the shots look like when you get home.

    It would be better still if you could borrow one or more from a friend for
    a few hours (or days?) so that you could take shots of something other
    than the inside of a camera shop.
     
    lacunae, Sep 13, 2005
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    SimonLW Guest

    Smart man. Put money into the lenses! I also have a good set of full frame
    lenses including one L. Now I'm waiting for a full frame dSLR at a
    reasonable price. It may be a few years yet, but I'll stick with the
    original dRebel until then. I won't have worry about buying a whole new
    batch of lenses.
    -S
     
    SimonLW, Sep 14, 2005
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    SMS Guest

    The kit lens for the D50 is not the same as the kit lens for the D70.
    This is a key point that many people overlook. Still, Nikon has
    sufficient lenses and accessories, they just lack the higher-end,
    full-frame bodies that Canon has.
     
    SMS, Sep 14, 2005
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    SMS Guest

    Assuming that low-light performance is important to this person.
    Personally, if I had no existing Canon lenses, I'd get the D50 over the
    350D.
     
    SMS, Sep 14, 2005
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    Pete D Guest

    Probably not a problem for a while I would guess.
     
    Pete D, Sep 16, 2005
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    Pete D Guest

    A friend of mine had a Canon 10D, decided to "upgrade" to a 350D, took it
    back after a couple of weeks and swapped it for a 20D, he really hated the
    feel and handling of the 350D (and he has small fine hands). Personally I
    have never liked the feel and handling of the 350D even with a grip it does
    not improve, go on try it for yourself.
     
    Pete D, Sep 16, 2005
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    Bill Guest

    Note that I'm biased toward Canon because I own Canon glass, but the
    general info is relevant either way.

    A long time ago (2004), in a galaxy far far away (here actually), a war
    was raging inside me. I considered the original Digital Rebel/300 when I
    decided I needed to go to a digital SLR because I was sick of processing
    film (a digicam spoiled me). But I didn't go for it because it lacked
    some needed features.

    Then the 20D came out and I considered it, but the price was a bit too
    high at the time. So I waited to see if prices would fall, and by the
    next year, the Rebel XT/350D arrived with virtually all of the
    performance features of the 20D but at a much lower price.

    So some time ago I was mulling over the 20D and 350/XT. And to be
    honest, I didn't care for the "feel" of the 350/XT at first either
    because it seemed so small and it didn't have the rear control dial or
    top display screen which I was used to using. But then a friend who has
    both the 20D and XT suggested I use his XT for a day, and I was
    intrigued. Surprisingly enough I became accustomed to the size, weight,
    and handling and didn't mind using it at all...it was familiar to my
    Canon digicam.

    The menu and controls are different from the 20D, but not at all
    difficult to navigate once you learn the menus. Many of the functions
    have shortcuts too, so changing ISO from 100 to 400 is just 3 buttons,
    tap the shutter, and you're back to shooting.

    So after a day of use, I realized I could EASILY learn to live with the
    differences between the 20D and XT. So I mulled it over some more,
    checked out the accessories list, and found all of my current gear fit
    the XT already (my flash, remote release, lenses) which meant less new
    toys to buy. So I bought the XT and haven't looked back.

    The savings over the 20D body ($800 CDN at the time!!) was a big
    incentive too - it would help pay for some new glass which I needed for
    the 1.6x crop factor.

    Because it's so small though you definitely want the grip, especially
    with any serious lenses on the front.

    Getting back to the topic, I don't think it really matters which camera
    you get. Buy whatever is easier for YOU to use, fits your current lenses
    if you have any, and whatever has the features you need. The glass on
    the front is FAR more important than the camera body.
     
    Bill, Sep 17, 2005
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  10. I chose the Nikon D50. I owned the precedessor of the 350D, the 300D, and I
    was highly disappointed with what Canon did with the 350D which ultimately
    replaced it.

    One, they made it too freaking small. OK maybe that's subjective, but I
    found the size & feel of the 300D just fine. I could get a grip on it. I
    pick up the 350D, and it's like picking up a Pentax Optio S. This is an SLR!
    Don't make it so freaking small! OK, you can overcome this with a battery
    grip, but I shouldn't have to--and it adds to the cost.

    Second, they moved items to the menus which formerly hadn't been. ISO, white
    balance, image size (if you had the "hack" for the 300D), flash exposure
    compensation (again, if you had "the hack"), these were all non-menu items
    previously, they were handled through the LCD control panel as an SLR should
    do. Canon foolishly moved them to the MENUS. (Yes, with hard buttons, but
    still in the menu system.) This is an SLR. Those do NOT belong in menus like
    it's a point & shoot camera!

    Granted, the D50 does make some menu compromises--the meter-mode, AF-modes,
    and bracketing--but the irritating thing about the 350D is that it was right
    the FIRST time with the 300D, then they botch it on the "new" model; you
    don't regress like that.

    The D50 also is the perfect size, I think; it is smaller than the D70 and
    even the 300D I think, but not TOO small, and it's not as plasticky on the
    outside (I'm sure on the inside both are fine). Besides not having as much
    menu-itis, it also doesn't go into slow-sync flash in Av mode unless you
    specifically TELL it to, and I much prefer that. (The 350D requires you to
    go into custom functions to prevent blur-inducing 1/4 second shutter speeds
    with flash in Av mode; I HATE that.)

    I also like the ability to create folders in-camera so that shots are
    separated by subject matter, who shot them, et al right off the bat. I like
    its thumbpad being used to move the active AF-sensor.

    I wish Nikon had stayed with Compact Flash, though I got two 512 SD cards
    (regular speed) for $55, and they are stored in CF-card sized cases so that
    helps. Plus, the omitting of the backlight was silly--but in reality,
    half-the-time you need a flashlight anyway to see the buttons, this is the
    case with ANY brand of SLR pretty much.

    As for image-quality--6 vs 8 is very tiny. I just got back some 11 x 16 1/2
    blowups from the D50 in straight Large-Fine JPEG mode and they were totally
    righteous.

    LRH
    http://www.pbase.com/
     
    Larry R Harrison Jr, Oct 6, 2005
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