Nikon D50 or Canon 350D???

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by jazu, Jun 10, 2006.

  1. jazu

    jazu Guest

    That is the question.
    Which one to buy?
    jazu, Jun 10, 2006
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    Mark² Guest

    My crystal ball is broken today...
    Mark², Jun 10, 2006
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    Bill Guest

    I dunno...which one do YOU like?

    Now if you get more specific about your needs, we might be able to get
    more specific about your choices.
    Bill, Jun 10, 2006
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    Mark² Guest

    She loves me...she loves me not...

    -Canon it is!
    Mark², Jun 10, 2006
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    J. Clarke Guest

    I really wish some of the people asking this question would google the
    archives first, it gets asked at least twice a week.

    Look at the _system_. What do you want to do with it? If all you want to
    do is take pictures of the kids and print them out 6x7 then save your money
    and get a Canon S3 or a Panasonic FZ7. If you're serious about
    photography, look at the _system_ and consider what you're going to be
    doing--either will do fine for _most_ purposes but there are specialized
    pieces in both systems that don't have equivalents in the other--if you
    need one of those pieces you'll do better with the system that has it.
    J. Clarke, Jun 11, 2006
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    Joan Guest

    The lens makes a difference too.


    : In article <>,
    : > jazu wrote:
    : > > That is the question.
    : > > Which one to buy?
    : > You might look here
    : >
    : > non_eos350d%2Cnikon_d50&show=all>
    : >
    : > Scott
    : I did some test prints using sharpened sample images from dpreview.
    : a nikon film slr user but the rebel pics seemed much sharper. Does
    : 2Mp make that much difference? Do my observations match what others
    : found?
    Joan, Jun 11, 2006
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    Mark² Guest

    Oh, I don't know.
    There are basically 4 reasons why I ended up in the Canon camp...and why
    Canon is tough to beat.

    1: I had a Canon film body given to me.

    2, 3 and 4 are more significant:

    Image stabilized lenses...perhaps the most important technology to hit
    lenses since AF.
    Nikon is fanally beginning to offer significant competition to Canon after
    having come up with their own version of IS, but Canon has had a HUGE lead
    for quite some time. Canon's first IS lens came out 11 years ago, and I
    bought it while in Alaska. It was a HUGE advantage when you're hanging out
    the window of a car shooting images of dangerous wildlife, and I knew
    immediately that IS was going to be a true bombshell in the industry.
    It was...and is, BTW.

    Canon grabbed a LOT of people with the world's first "affordable" DSLR, the
    That was my first digital camera, and shots from it still hold up VERY well
    compared even with the latest and greatest--just at a smaller file size.
    The "old" RAW files I have from it get better (years after they were shot)
    each time an improved RAW converter makes an advance...meaning even old tech
    can actually get better with age!

    Canon designs and builds their own sensors and processors.
    Their breakthrough with CMOS was a major thing, and others are following
    This has given Canon a boost in in many aspects of the business, and market.

    The above does NOT mean Canon is always superior. In fact, they've pulled
    some real boners (20D lock-up, among other things). But they have
    consistently come up with true breakthroughs that you simply couldn't get
    anywhere else--at least for significant time. And these breakthroughs
    extended beyond mere gadgetry. IS, CMOS, for example, have valid and
    lasting aspects to offer...not simply the "latest," but also something pros
    and amateurs have good reason to seek and use.

    Nikon makes good stuff, but they are not particularly good at the
    They have become followers in many ways, but to their credit, they follow
    To those who don't mind letting 3 or 4 years of shooting go by without
    getting the tools they wish for, Nikon will eventually deliver them. But
    for those who really do benefit from things like IS, CMOS smoothness,
    full-frame, lightning fast sports shooting with file size, and other things,
    many simply cannot afford to wait. For these needs, Canon has a strong
    record of delivering the goods.

    So... There's more to it than the tired old "Canon is for gadget heads" and
    "Nikon is for those with 'feel'" lines like I read below.
    Please name the Canon DSLRs that have a plastic lens mount.
    There are exactly ZERO.
    Have you ever shot with a 1D series camera?
    Or even a 5D or 20D?
    I agree with you in one sense, and that is this:
    If a person doesn't care about the photos, and merely wants something
    cool...then Canon does offer products that will give him something MORE to
    fiddle with.

    But where the logic breaks down is when people start assuming that the
    presence of gadget geeks somehow dictates whether new technologies are
    "toys" or "tools." Tools do not drop to "toy quality" merely because some
    in the market don't know how to use their quality tools. Some people have a
    garage full of the best mechanical tools available, but cannot change teh
    oil in their car! Does this mean the quality of their tools is less? Of
    course not. So try not to confuse the geek attraction...with a means of
    measuring the actual nature of the tools themselves. Canon makes serious
    tools for serious photogs. Don't allow the fact that some geeks tend to use
    serious tools as though they were mere toys...change your perception that
    we're still talking about world-class equipment.

    -And perhaps you haven't...But others here do.

    Mark², Jun 11, 2006
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    Zozzer Guest

    One of the 'Gadgets' on my Canon 350D never
    used is shooting video, and I'm sure there will
    others I've yet to discover.

    I think it's only a very small percentage of people
    who buy camera's simply because they are the
    latest model. Many people are only just moving
    to DLSR have spent many years using film camera's.

    Why ?

    DSLR's are now affordable to the average person.

    Myself, I moved from from a Canon A1
    to a Canon Powershot A40, to a Canon 350D

    No more endless nights in the bathroom developing
    film and printing photo's. Boy now that really is a
    GADGET !!!

    Zozzer, Jun 11, 2006
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    Mike Guest

    Yes, the Coke Dispenser.
    VVVVery funny!

    What a clever customer.
    Mike, Jun 11, 2006
  10. I don't know about Nikon, but there are adapters that allow you to use your
    Olympus lenses on Canon dSLRs. The Oly 21mm and shift lenses are said to be
    great on the 5D, if memory serves. AF doesn't even work for confirmation
    (Nikon does better here with the old manual focus lenses), and metering is
    "stop down" (really awkward), so it's a pain. I use my Mamiya 645 lenses as
    shift lenses on my 5D with the (pricey) Zork adapter, and the shift makes it
    worth the effort. Having a 35mm shift lens is very useful, the 55mm lens is
    maybe useful, but I'm not sure I'll find a use for the 110/2.8.

    Speaking of shift, I was watching the tube just now, and I'm convinced that
    they have shift lenses for video cameras: they were showing a scene in which
    the horizon line fell at the bottom of the frame yet the buildings on the
    hill were not doing the usual tilt back ("keystoning") thing.

    David J. Littleboy
    Tokyo, Japan
    David J. Littleboy, Jun 15, 2006
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