Nikon D60 is announced

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Neil Harrington, Jan 29, 2008.

  1. Neil Harrington, Jan 29, 2008
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    Paul Furman Guest

    Ha, it does movies (sort of):

    "Stop-Motion Movie mode is a D-SLR first that enables users to create
    stop-animation movie clips from a series of as many as 100 consecutive
    JPEG picture files."
     
    Paul Furman, Jan 29, 2008
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  3. Yes, and Ken says he actually wants that. Heh. I wonder what the method is.

    What's interesting to me is its being packaged with the 18-55 VR. Since that
    implies enormous production of that lens, presumably it will be very
    attractively priced.

    Neil
     
    Neil Harrington, Jan 29, 2008
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    Mark Sieving Guest

    The introduction suggests it's a replacement for the D80, but it looks
    more like a replacement for the D40X. I didn't see, but I assume it
    doesn't have an autofocus motor for non AF-S lenses.
     
    Mark Sieving, Jan 29, 2008
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    Guest Guest

    ken claims it replaces the d80? it's very clearly a replacement for
    the d40x and probably the d40 as well. nikon should have called it a
    d45, since there's not a huge difference between it and the d40x.
    dpreview has a sample 'movie':
    <http://a.img-dpreview.com/news/0801/nikon/ASC_0115.AVI>

    and a brief hands-on:
    <http://www.dpreview.com/news/0801/08012911nikond601st.asp>
     
    Guest, Jan 29, 2008
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    Paul Furman Guest

    OK so it's a D40x with a new processor & anti dust system. One
    interesting feature is a "digital rangefinder that indicates subject
    distance when manually focusing lenses". Hmm. Does that mean it'll meter
    with old Ai lenses too?
     
    Paul Furman, Jan 29, 2008
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  7. Yes, definitely. Maybe a typo on Ken's part.

    I assume that too. Body looks the same size as the D40/D40x so I'd think
    that would rule out an AF motor and coupling in the body.
     
    Neil Harrington, Jan 29, 2008
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  8. Previously on rec.photo.digital.slr-systems, Mark Sieving said:
    The specs say that non-AF-S lenses won't autofocus on it, and it's "the
    same form factor" as the D40(x). By implication, it does not have an
    internal focus motor.

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    Jeffrey Kaplan, Jan 29, 2008
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    RichA Guest

    It doesn't, check the picture of the bayonet.
     
    RichA, Jan 29, 2008
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    frederick Guest

    The D60 is (IMO) Nikon's first tactical blunder for a while.

    The D40/x competed well against the Canon 400d. The 400d was/is a better
    featured camera, but the differences perhaps weren't so obvious to a new
    user to slrs. This time, comparing the D60 to the 450d, the 450d is a
    much better featured camera, but this time it should be easy for a new
    user to see that the D60 is out-specced by the Canon. The 450d looks
    good, will have 12mp and liveview stamped all over the carton, and
    although launch price for the D60 is a little lower than the 450d, Canon
    have shown that they can be aggressive on price, and have indicated that
    their goal is to retain #1 sales position in Japan. This year, I think
    Canon will win.
     
    frederick, Jan 29, 2008
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    Sosumi Guest

    Sosumi, Jan 29, 2008
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  12. I know. May have been a typo. It obviously is no replacement for the D80.
     
    Neil Harrington, Jan 29, 2008
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    gpaleo Guest



    Thom Hogan has a nice write-up.
     
    gpaleo, Jan 29, 2008
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  14. The other things announced are perhaps more interesting - three full
    frame tilt-shift lenses for the D3 (or indeed, gnarly old film) - 24, 45
    and 85mm.

    http://www.dphotoexpert.com/2008/01/29/nikon-d60-and-tilt-shift-lenses-announced/

    We had the news story up ready for the morning and by lunchtime had come
    close to the transfer limit of the server with over 12,000 views of the
    story. Amazing level of interest mainly in a very conservative camera spec.

    But until the 10.2 megapixel CCD is tried out in its new 64-1600 ISO
    incarnation, the image quality is unknown. Dropping the gain that much,
    instead of going for 3200 as Sony has done with the A200, may produce
    some real benefits in image quality - unless 64 is oversaturated.

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    David Kilpatrick, Jan 29, 2008
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    frederick Guest

    Thom Hogan usually uses reason, and I don't disagree, but he doesn't
    allow for the fact that new camera buyers often use emotion tempered by
    confusion, and are more likely to read Ken Rockwell than his site.
    I think that the D60 is a mistake - unless Nikon follows up soon with a
    D80 replacement with liveview, the big new lcd, & D300 sensor.
    Nikon has the top end (if you exclude the Canon 5d) and bottom end of
    the dslr market sewn up. In between is also very important.
     
    frederick, Jan 29, 2008
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    frederick Guest

    Thom Hogan usually uses reason, but he doesn't allow for the fact that
    new camera buyers often use emotion tempered by confusion, and are more
    likely to read Ken Rockwell than his site.
    I think that the D60 is a mistake - unless Nikon follows up soon with a
    D80 replacement with liveview, the big new lcd, & D300 sensor.
    Nikon has the top end (if you exclude the Canon 5d) and bottom end of
    the "prosumer" dslr market sewn up quite well. In between is also very
    important.
     
    frederick, Jan 29, 2008
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    RichA Guest

    They probably realized anything better would cut into sales of the D80
    and it's successor.
    More and more I think the guy in the Brit mag Amateur Photography is
    right, the bottom end will collapse in the DSLR market.
     
    RichA, Jan 30, 2008
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    bob Guest

    That's only between 3 and 6 seconds of video, depending on the frame rate, not
    even enough to do 1 scene...

    I wonder why they bothered?

    (Standard video is either 24 or 30 frames per sec, cartoons can run as low as
    15.)

    You can set a program like Pinnacle Studio to load stills, set them to 32
    milisecs or whatever, and load in 1000 pics for a scene, and it outputs a movie
    clip.


    Do they have a size setting of 1920 x 1080?? Or 720 x 480?
     
    bob, Jan 30, 2008
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    frederick Guest

    <snip>
    Given the expected shutter life of an entry level dslr, you should be
    able to make about an hour of stop-animation video before the camera
    goes in the trash bin. If it gets popular, then it might increase entry
    level dslr sales considerably.
     
    frederick, Jan 30, 2008
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    Guest Guest

    That's only between 3 and 6 seconds of video, depending on the frame rate, not
    even enough to do 1 scene...[/QUOTE]

    at 3fps, it's over thirty seconds of video. it also creates it from
    consecutive images which do not necessarily have to be taken in
    succession.
    because it's fairly easy to implement and will probably entice some
    buyers.
    it's not intended to be a video camera.
    that's true, but this is *out of the camera* with no additional
    software needed.
    according to nikon, the movie is created from full resolution 10 mpix
    images, with the movie rendered in a few different sizes.
     
    Guest, Jan 30, 2008
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