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  1. Good to see you admit to the problem. Granted that I doubt
    you meant to say it that way, but...
     
    Floyd L. Davidson, Oct 11, 2013
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  2. David Taylor

    Eric Stevens Guest

    First, putting back the text Sandman deleted:
    Tony Cooper wrote:

    "If your wife prepared a meal where the recipe didn't work out as
    planned and asked you how your liked it, and your reply was "Truly
    a gourmet experience" you were being sarcastic. Your wife, aware
    that the meal didn't work out, would probably laugh at that.

    Was that not gentle humor on your part? Though sarcastic, your
    remark was not intended to offend, wound, or insult."

    There is nothing there to suggest that the husband thought his wife
    was 'deserving of scorn'. Quite the contrary in fact. The clause "your
    remark was not intended to offend, wound, or insult." should have made
    that clear. Yet you felt in the circumstances the husband believed the
    wife was 'deserving of scorn'. Bizarre.
     
    Eric Stevens, Oct 11, 2013
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  3. David Taylor

    Sandman Guest

    Tony Cooper wrote:

    "If your wife prepared a meal where the recipe didn't work out as
    planned and asked you how your liked it, and your reply was "Truly
    a gourmet experience" you were being sarcastic. Your wife, aware
    that the meal didn't work out, would probably laugh at that.

    Was that not gentle humor on your part? Though sarcastic, your
    remark was not intended to offend, wound, or insult."

    There is nothing there to suggest that the husband thought his wife
    was 'deserving of scorn'[/QUOTE]

    Eric, step out of this while you're still behind.
     
    Sandman, Oct 11, 2013
    #83
  4. David Taylor

    PeterN Guest

    Yes, the word derivation is mostly correct. However, I am only repeating
    what I learned n my college literature class. My memory could be wrong.
    One day I will research to see how well my memory on this point functions.
    Having said that, according to your definition, you still used the word
    incorrectly.
     
    PeterN, Oct 11, 2013
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  5. David Taylor

    Sandman Guest

    Yes, the word derivation is mostly correct.[/QUOTE]

    Not mostly.
    Don't. Learn what's correct instead of repeating what's wrong.
     
    Sandman, Oct 11, 2013
    #85
  6. David Taylor

    Sandman Guest

    Incorrect.
     
    Sandman, Oct 11, 2013
    #86
  7. David Taylor

    PeterN Guest

    Yup! A few weeks ago I asked my wife where she bought the steak. Her
    reaction: "Why what's wrong with it. You just hate my cooking these days."
    Watchagonnado.
     
    PeterN, Oct 11, 2013
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  8. David Taylor

    PeterN Guest

    And a quiet subject of your picture would then be a pantomime.
     
    PeterN, Oct 11, 2013
    #88
  9. David Taylor

    PeterN Guest

    On 10/10/2013 12:01 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:


    Is an ad hominem something used to market a particular type of honey?
     
    PeterN, Oct 11, 2013
    #89
  10. David Taylor

    PeterN Guest

    Hahahaha!

    Tony, always wrong, but will fight to the last drop for the right to
    always be wrong!
    [/QUOTE]

    When somebody is wrong, he uses the old blowtorch.
     
    PeterN, Oct 11, 2013
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  11. David Taylor

    PeterN Guest

    We had a cocktail party almost go wrong, when the dog ate the cheese.
    (before it was heated.)
     
    PeterN, Oct 11, 2013
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  12. David Taylor

    PeterN Guest

    Eric joins in on the cluelessness, two peas in a pod.
    [/QUOTE]

    Blowtorch.
     
    PeterN, Oct 11, 2013
    #92
  13. David Taylor

    J. Clarke Guest

    Floyd, "You're a Nazi" is an insult, not an ad-hominem argument.

    "Your opinion that we can pu a man to the Moon is wrong because you're a
    Nazi" is an ad-hominem argument.

    Trying to make "ad hominem" a synonym for "insult" just debases the
    language. But people like you won't rest until there is only one word
    in the language and somehow we are supposed to deduce its meaning in any
    given context by mind-reading.
     
    J. Clarke, Oct 11, 2013
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  14. David Taylor

    Sandman Guest

    Oop, sorry, I meant three. :)
     
    Sandman, Oct 11, 2013
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  15. David Taylor

    Sandman Guest

    Floyd, "You're a Nazi" is an insult, not an ad-hominem argument.[/QUOTE]

    It's all up to context.

    Person A: The new Volvo S60 outperforms your Audi A3 due to the
    more effective turbo
    Person B: Dream on. You're a nazi anyway.

    Person B just replied with an ad hominem. Meaning that instead of
    responding with something countering the argument from person A, he
    responded with an argument against the person itself.

    Just walking up to a person and calling them a nazi isn't an ad hominem,
    that's just an insult. An ad hominem can be an insult, but it doesn't
    have to be. It just has to focus on the other person rather than the
    current argument.

    A bit like if a person made an argument about the definition of a word
    and someone replied with:

    "What a limited range of emotions you appear to be open to."

    I.e. not an argument about the definition of the word, but rather a
    comment about the other person. Not an *insult* per se, but most
    certainly an ad hominem. :)

    We all do them from time to time, not a big deal, but quite telling when
    the group trolls do it in lieu of an actual argument. I usually mix my
    ad hominem's with a working argument :)
     
    Sandman, Oct 11, 2013
    #95
  16. David Taylor

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Not mostly.
    Don't. Learn what's correct instead of repeating what's wrong.[/QUOTE]

    Now *that's* funny coming from Jonas who is known for thinking that
    repetition of error is "substantiation" of correctness.
     
    Tony Cooper, Oct 11, 2013
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  17. David Taylor

    Sandman Guest

    Now *that's* funny coming from Jonas who is known for thinking that
    repetition of error is "substantiation" of correctness.[/QUOTE]

    Tony, we already know you're clueless, no need to keep repeating it.
     
    Sandman, Oct 11, 2013
    #97
  18. David Taylor

    Tony Cooper Guest

    I suppose there are successful marriages around where the couple do
    not engage in light-hearted banter, but - personally - I can't imagine
    it. If a person feels that light-hearted banter, whether in the form
    of mild sarcasm or not, is expressing "scorn", I seriously wonder
    about that person's psychological balance.

    A person who elevates minor slights to that level is usually so
    insecure and fragile that they feel that anything but praise is some
    form of rejection. That person will usually be one who is constantly
    on the defensive and must be right about everything.

    I would certainly not want to be in a marriage where I'd have to
    constantly walk on eggshells in order not to offend. Luckily, I'm
    not.
     
    Tony Cooper, Oct 11, 2013
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  19. David Taylor

    Bowser Guest

    That's one of those white faced guys who mimics pants in dead silence,
    right? I saw one in Florence; Grey. Guy was hilarious. Yes, really.
     
    Bowser, Oct 11, 2013
    #99
  20. If the discussion is about moon landings, any reference
    to someone being a Nazi placed into that discussion is
    Ad Hominem, even if there is never an explicit
    connection made between the opinion's validity and being
    a Nazi.
    And nobody except you seems to have done that. Why are
    you doing so?
    And you do realize that "people like you" is an Ad
    Hominem? It has no logical connection, references a
    total fabrication by you, and appeals to nothing but
    emotion.

    Why not stick with the topic under discussion and apply
    logic and reason to that topic? Don't make up Strawman
    Arguments. Don't call people names, make references to
    Nazi's, or insert wild exaggerations.
     
    Floyd L. Davidson, Oct 11, 2013
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