Nikon D70 and Sunpak 3600 Flash

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Mike O'Connor, May 5, 2004.

  1. I wish to use my old sunpak 3600 flash rig with a new Nikon D70. The
    adaptor AS-15's infomation sheet warns of not using anything other
    than Nikon speedlights etc... So can I safely do this. My camera shops
    says yes but seem unsure and on phoning the help desk at the New
    Zealand agent only proved they are very rude and unhelpful. Any
    thoughts out there please.Mike O'Connor - New Zealand
     
    Mike O'Connor, May 5, 2004
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    D.R. Guest

    Hi Mike.

    I also live in NZ and went through the same saga.
    My F80 manual said Nikon-only. I tried Sunpak and
    other flashes. The manual flashes worked ok, but
    the multi-nikon-canon-etc Sunpak flashes didn't
    really work. The flashes didn't talk to the camera
    correctly.

    So I tried a Sigma TTL auto designed for Nikon.
    Didn't work, was faulty. Did some crazy stuff with
    settings on the F80. Weird.

    Ended up buying a 2nd-handNikon SB24 TTL-Auto, and
    my F80 recognises it and magic happens the second
    I turn it on.

    Manual flashes are pretty safe with most SLRs as
    there is only one pin. When getting more complicated
    third party accessories that are supposed to talk
    to your camera, then some start coming undone.

    I would recommend getting a Nikon flash if you wish
    to use the automatic features of your camera. I did
    some photos of freestyle bmx and skateboarding at
    nighttime with a Sunpak manual flash. Worked ok, but
    required much thinking and calculation. Ended up
    ruining some awesome photos because I misjudged the
    settings. Gutted.

    If you can buy from a shop, you can at least get a
    warranty. You can also get some good deals on
    www.Trademe.co.nz

    Later,
    D.R.
     
    D.R., May 5, 2004
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  3. Thanks for the reply. Yes its fine the auto features can't be used, it
    was just the electrical connection re damage to the camera that I and
    asking about, from an older style way of trigging the flash.
     
    Mike O'Connor, May 6, 2004
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    Travis Smith Guest

    I've heard stories of directly syncing older type flashes to digital cameras
    and having it fry the camera because of their sensitive electronics, but I'm
    not sure if it's just urban legends. I know one thing a friend of mine is
    very paranoid about is not (un)plugging anything to their camera (battery
    charger/sync cord/flash hotshoe, etc) because of fears of it frying the
    electronics in the camera. *shrug*

    Keep in mind that I've never heard of it happening to anyone, so I could
    just be spreading an urban legend.

    Travis
     
    Travis Smith, May 6, 2004
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    D.R. Guest

    A flash with a single pin *should* be safe. All the
    flash is doing is receiving a signal from the camera.
    Other more technical 3rd party flashes that send
    signal back to flash so that camera recognizes it is
    what might be risky. With a single pin flash, your
    camera won't recognize it, so you have to stick your
    flash onto manual no higher than your max sync shutter
    speed and manually calculate distances and aperatures.
    No fun. YOu might miss many shot opportunities. For
    NZ$200-300 you might is well get a used SB24. The SB28
    is more than my F80 cost me new. Ouch!

    Another good place to get gear is: http://www.photo.co.nz/
     
    D.R., May 6, 2004
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    D.R. Guest

    D.R., May 6, 2004
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    MikeS Guest

    two of the contacts the other contacts are for passing inf. between camera
    and flash unit such as I got enough light switch off. I cant see how high
    voltages are necessary and how they can damage the camera other than burn
    the flash switch on contacts My flash reads 6volts across two of the
    contacts. the high voltages are to power the flash lamp.
    I'm going to experiment to find out which contacts fire the flash, I'll get
    back to you when I've done it.
    MikeS
     
    MikeS, May 7, 2004
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    Peter Nixon Guest

    c.200V; fine with cameras of the time (early 1980s) but now a bit risky. You
    are safer using a slave trigger.

    HTH

    Peter
     
    Peter Nixon, May 13, 2004
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    MikeS Guest

    voltage read across the terminals is 14 volts using different combinations
    of pairs when using the volt meter. other combinations give 4.5 and 9 volts.
    I cant understand why one would need a very high voltage to trigger the
    flash when all you need is to complete a trigger circuit say a thirister and
    that could be on the primary windings of the transforma which may give a
    high current through the thyrister no the camera.
    So I ask the question which contacts trigger the flash gon on a Nikon.
    MikeS
     
    MikeS, May 15, 2004
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