Nikon D70s, NEF, and Macintosh

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Nikon User, Oct 8, 2005.

  1. Nikon User

    Nikon User Guest

    I recently purchased a Nikon D70s and a 1-gig Lexar Compact Flash card.

    iPhoto says it can't recgnize the NEF formatted files; I tried
    connecting the camera directly to the computer (with a USB cable), and
    reading the card with a card reader.

    A friend who has a D70 has no problem importing NEF files from her
    camera with iPhoto.

    I can import them with PictureProject and with GraphicConverter, though.
    I don't have any version of Photoshop.

    Are there differences between the D70 version of NEF and the D70s
    version? If not, why can't I import with iPhoto?

    Second question: Does Photoshop SE offer enough advantages over
    GraphicConverter to make it worth the money?

    Third question: Is Nikon View or Nikon Capture worth buying?

    Thanks in advance.
     
    Nikon User, Oct 8, 2005
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    Jeremy Nixon Guest

    Yes. You will probably have to wait for iPhoto to be updated for it to
    recognize the NEFs.
    I'm not sure what "Photoshop SE" is, but if you meant "CS2", then, yes.
    No. Not worth using even if free.
     
    Jeremy Nixon, Oct 8, 2005
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    Nikon User Guest

    If you own the 10.5mm fisheye, then you can convert the image from round to
    rectangular. The rectangular image still needs some work to avoid the
    falling over backwards look.
    Otherwise, both are a waste of money and time.[/QUOTE]

    *chuckle* No, I don't own the fisheye. Thanks.
     
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    Nikon User Guest

    Yes. You will probably have to wait for iPhoto to be updated for it
    to recognize the NEFs.
    Thanks.
    I'm not sure what "Photoshop SE" is, but if you meant "CS2", then,
    yes.[/QUOTE]

    Actually, I meant Photoshop Elements. I don't know where I got the "SE"
    from. Photoshop CS2 is much more than I need, and costs much more than
    I can justify spending.

    So, the question is the comparison between Photoshop Elements and
    GraphicConverter.
     
    Nikon User, Oct 8, 2005
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    Jim Guest

    If you own the 10.5mm fisheye, then you can convert the image from round to
    rectangular. The rectangular image still needs some work to avoid the
    falling over backwards look.
    Otherwise, both are a waste of money and time.
    Jim
     
    Jim, Oct 8, 2005
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    Ed Ruf Guest

    Even if you assign value of zero to NV, since it's free, the amount of
    value per price is still indeterminate. NV is a free download on the Nikon
    Support web site.
     
    Ed Ruf, Oct 8, 2005
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    Nikon User Guest

    Even if you assign value of zero to NV, since it's free, the amount
    of value per price is still indeterminate. NV is a free download on
    the Nikon Support web site.[/QUOTE]

    Apparently, it does not support the D70s; when I list my camera as a
    D70s it does not show up in the downloads list, but if I list it as a
    D70, it does show up. So I can scratch it from consideration,
    regardless.
     
    Nikon User, Oct 8, 2005
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    Jeremy Nixon Guest

    Then I'd say "maybe". Elements is lacking some things that I find rather
    fundamental to photo post-processing, like Curves, and I consider it not
    really suitable for serious photography.

    The price tag on the full CS2 is a bit of a bummer, yes.
     
    Jeremy Nixon, Oct 8, 2005
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    Nikon User Guest

    Then I'd say "maybe". Elements is lacking some things that I find
    rather fundamental to photo post-processing, like Curves, and I
    consider it not really suitable for serious photography.[/QUOTE]

    Thanks. Frankly, I don't know what Curves is (in relation to digital
    photography), so I probably don't need it--at least not for a while.
     
    Nikon User, Oct 8, 2005
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    Nikon User Guest

    Picture Project came with my D70. All it does for me is download the
    files and format the card.[/QUOTE]

    It came with my D70s too; however, we're talking about Nikon View here.
     
    Nikon User, Oct 8, 2005
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    Jeremy Nixon Guest

    That's a fair statement -- and part of the reason I said Elements was a
    "maybe" even though I followed it up with a "not suitable". What's
    important is whether it does what *you* want, not whether it does what
    I want. :)

    It's a good program. If the feature list matches your needs, I'd say go
    for it. If you outgrow it, you'll know. However, it is worth noting that
    the new version just came out for Windows but not for Mac, with the Mac
    version "still in development", whatever that might mean. Anyway, there
    is a demo available, so you can download that and see if you like it.
     
    Jeremy Nixon, Oct 8, 2005
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    Jim Guest

    Apparently, it does not support the D70s; when I list my camera as a
    D70s it does not show up in the downloads list, but if I list it as a
    D70, it does show up. So I can scratch it from consideration,
    regardless.[/QUOTE]
    Picture Project came with my D70. All it does for me is download the files
    and format the card.
    Jim
     
    Jim, Oct 8, 2005
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    Mike Warren Guest

    Don't know about the Mac version but the Windows version of
    Nikon View 6.2 does support the D70s.

    -Mike
     
    Mike Warren, Oct 8, 2005
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    Nikon User Guest

    I'll check out the demo, then. I already have GraphicConverter, paid my
    shareware fee and all, but what I'm trying to find out is what Photoshop
    Elements can do that GC can't do.
     
    Nikon User, Oct 8, 2005
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    Nikon User Guest

    I'll check out the demo, then. I already have GraphicConverter, paid
    my shareware fee and all, but what I'm trying to find out is what
    Photoshop Elements can do that GC can't do.[/QUOTE]

    Apparently, there isn't a demo version of PS Elements for the Mac
    available at the Adobe web site any more. There are links that purport
    to be for a demo version, but the only files are for updates. *sigh*
     
    Nikon User, Oct 8, 2005
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    Jim Guest

    It came with my D70s too; however, we're talking about Nikon View here.[/QUOTE]
    Yes, I know. Nikon View did not come with my D70. I thought that Picture
    Project replaced Nikon View.
    However, as I do not have Nikon View, I have no comments on it.
    Jim
     
    Jim, Oct 9, 2005
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    Shawn Hirn Guest

    You didn't indicate which version of the Mac OS you're using or iPhoto.
    Make sure you are using the same version as your friend and it should
    work.
     
    Shawn Hirn, Oct 9, 2005
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    DoN. Nichols Guest

    Presumably there are differences -- though you might try as a
    test importing images from her camera to see whether there may be a
    plugin to the program missing.

    You don't say which version of the Mac's OS you are using. If
    you are using OS-X, you should be able to download dcraw and compile it,
    just as you can on a unix system. (Do you have the development system
    installed in your Mac? It is free, and provides an exceelent C
    compiler, "gcc". I think that it is even on the CD-ROMS which the OS
    comes on.
    I don't use either. I use dcraw to convert my RAW images, and
    "the GIMP" (another free unix program available for the Mac OS-X) for
    manipulating the images.
    I did not buy them -- but they were not available for my
    preferred unix boxen, so I can't testify first-hand as to what they may
    be worth.

    Enjoy,
    DoN.
     
    DoN. Nichols, Oct 9, 2005
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    Nikon User Guest

    Presumably there are differences -- though you might try as a test
    importing images from her camera to see whether there may be a plugin
    to the program missing.[/QUOTE]

    Well, it was already answered that there is a difference, but I couldn't
    test with her camera regardless; we live about 800 miles apart.
    I have Tiger 10.4.2, and do have X-Code 2.0 installed. But I'm not a
    developer, so have no idea of how to compile anything. Anything other
    than Applescripts, that is--and I don't need the development system for
    that.

    But why isn't the object code for dcraw available?
     
    Nikon User, Oct 9, 2005
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    Nikon User Guest

    We are using the same version; the problem is that the versions of NEF
    are different.
     
    Nikon User, Oct 9, 2005
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