Nikon D80 Flash options...

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by The Henchman, Oct 22, 2009.

  1. The Henchman

    The Henchman Guest

    I need a decent flash for my Nikon D80. The flash is mostly for indoor use
    under household light like compact flourescents and incadescant lights.

    Mainly for objects, macro in particular, but will also have to use for the
    odd portrait shot. Might also be used for dusk or dawn outdoor shots if i
    feel like goodfing around.

    I use P and M modes and I try to use bracketing. I am strictly amatuer.

    What are my options in brand new flashes and what options do I have for used
    flashes. What are some pros and cons of your recommended models? I am of
    the thrifty sort. I look for best value and not the best toy or cheapest
    toy.

    Thanks for the advice!!!
     
    The Henchman, Oct 22, 2009
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  2. The Henchman

    Guest Guest

    mixed lighting, be careful.
    sounds like an opportunity for fill flash.
    nikon sb 400, 600 and 900 are your best bet (and sb 800 used). put the
    flash on the camera and they 'just work.' you can always switch to
    manual if you prefer. if you want to use fill flash, just set it and
    forget it, no need to calculate anything (unless you want to). for what
    you want to do, the sb600 is probably the best. you can even use them
    off-camera controlled wirelessly, in addition to (or in place of) the
    built-in flash. they're not the cheapest but they're *well* worth it.

    sunpak, sigma and i think metz have a couple of i-ttl flashes but they
    don't fully implement everything and they're not really that much
    cheaper. for instance, the sunpak pz40x doesn't implement fill flash
    and i don't think it supports remote operation (don't remember).

    other flashes will not work with i-ttl, even older nikon flashes, and
    will require either fully manual (a pain) or using the sensor on the
    flash itself (mostly works, not always).
     
    Guest, Oct 22, 2009
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  3. The Henchman

    Guest Guest

    on a nikon dslr??

    sunpak makes flashes for various cameras and the 266d came in versions
    for canon, nikon, pentax, etc. one of my favourite sunpak flashes was
    the 444 series which had interchangeable feet for a variety of cameras.
    unfortunately, those old flashes do not support nikon i-ttl and are not
    all that useful on a d80.
    nonsense. all flashes these days have low trigger voltages. the only
    issue is the extra contacts, which can be a problem but usually isn't.
    worst case, use a pc cord or a hotshoe adapter. the important thing to
    look for is if the flash supports the nikon i-ttl protocol. nikon's
    current flashes obviously do, but their old ones don't, and using them
    will be a lot more work than an i-ttl flash. some third party flashes
    support i-ttl but not all of it.
     
    Guest, Oct 22, 2009
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  4. The Henchman

    Guest Guest

    the sb800 went *way* up in price after being discontinued. the sb900 is
    overkill for a lot of people and there's nothing to fill the gap
    between the 600 and 900, except a used 800. best buy blew them out for
    something like $189, which was *less* than a new sb600. unfortunately,
    i found out too late.
    the sb400 is basically a more powerful version of what's built into the
    camera. the 600 is a *lot* better and worth the difference.
    the third party flashes don't usually support cls or fill flash, but
    otherwise they mostly work. i've heard that the sigma flash is
    inconsistent (no surprise there). the sunpak works fairly well, but
    neither one is significantly cheaper than the nikon.
     
    Guest, Oct 22, 2009
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  5. The Henchman

    Guest Guest

    which one?

    the 266d doesn't support i-ttl or the older d-ttl, so you'd be stuck
    with either automatic using the flash's sensor or fully manual. it will
    do standard ttl with nikon film slrs though.
     
    Guest, Oct 22, 2009
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  6. The Henchman

    Guest Guest

    i find sunpak flashes to be fairly intuitive. there's not much to that
    flash (or most flashes like it). set the iso being used on the flash,
    match the f/stop on the flash with the lens and use the distance scale
    as a guide. there's a choice of 3 f/stops for automatic mode. zoom the
    flash head to match the focal length (optional). not much more to it
    than that. if it supported i-ttl all that would be done automatically.

    for manual flash you can calculate the appropriate f/stop and distance
    with guide numbers (blech), and optionally adjust the power if
    necessary. not much more to it than that, but the manual is available
    on line for free just in case.
     
    Guest, Oct 22, 2009
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  7. The Henchman

    yawn Guest

    I'm surprised you didn't post the link to the one you downloaded. Seeing as
    how downloadable manuals are the only experience you've ever had with any
    camera gear. Like most of your ilk. You've certainly proved this being your
    only experience often enough.
     
    yawn, Oct 22, 2009
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  8. The Henchman

    Guest Guest

    the d80 has commander mode, so an 800 or 900 is not absolutely
    necessary as it would on a more entry level body, but it's certainly
    nice to have.
     
    Guest, Oct 22, 2009
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  9. The Henchman

    Bob Larter Guest

    They aren't as hard as all that. Tedious compared to E-TTL, but still
    doable if you're used to shooting in full manual or aperture-priority.
     
    Bob Larter, Oct 22, 2009
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