Nikon maintains DSLR lead over Canon

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by frederick, Jul 13, 2007.

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    frederick Guest

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    Dave Cohen Guest

    Dave Cohen, Jul 14, 2007
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    Charles Guest


    Either that or ask RichA
     
    Charles, Jul 14, 2007
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  4. 55% of me says yes, 43% says no. 2% of me did not respond. I have a +/-
    4% margin of error. Hope this helps.
     
    Unclaimed Mysteries, Jul 14, 2007
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    RichA Guest

    Sometimes, rarely, consumer don't make stupid choices. This would be
    one of those times.
     
    RichA, Jul 14, 2007
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    ASAAR Guest

    RichA, you say?
     
    ASAAR, Jul 14, 2007
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    frederick Guest

    It's not a poll.
    And no - make your own choices.
    At the moment, Canon has weak choices in the consumer dslr market -
    where the bulk of sales are made. The Canon dslrs are okay but most
    other manufacturers have better product and greater range at entry
    level, and a less confusing position on sensor size format.
    It would be a shame to see the trend continue and for Canon to become a
    minor player in the dslr business.
     
    frederick, Jul 14, 2007
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  8. In message Dave Cohen sprach forth the
    following:
    My sources say yes.
     
    Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute, Jul 14, 2007
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    SMS Guest

    Definitely. Especially a poll taken in Japan.

    Still, Nikon's comeback in D-SLRs has been amazing. Except for the
    high-end professional market, where the volumes are low and prices are
    high, Nikon finally has a good selection of D-SLRs. The sales numbers
    reflect the pent-up demand from Nikon owners that have been waiting for
    cameras like the D200 and D80.
     
    SMS, Jul 14, 2007
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    SMS Guest

    It depends on which segment of the market you're interested in. Nikon is
    pretty weak in the entry level right now, with the severely de-featured
    D40x only slightly cheaper than the far more capable Canon 400D. But in
    the mid-range "prosumer" segment, Nikon has some good choices right now.

    Where Nikon is lagging badly is on the professional side, but the rumors
    of a full-frame camera have started up again, so they may be planning a
    foray into the high end.
     
    SMS, Jul 14, 2007
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    Guest Guest

    knock it off. the d40x is not 'severely de-featured.' perhaps it
    doesn't meet YOUR needs, but both it and the d40 meet the needs of
    millions of other people.
    nikon is not lagging badly. the only issue right now is no full-frame
    and that is expected to change. the nikon d2x is an excellent pro
    camera, used by many pros.
     
    Guest, Jul 14, 2007
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  12. And soon enough Canon will again release a flurry of new
    models, and the poll pendulum will swing the other way.
    And stay there until soon enough Nikon will again
    release ...

    One could just possibly interpret that to mean such
    polls have no value for consumers, eh?
     
    Floyd L. Davidson, Jul 14, 2007
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    BaumBadier Guest

    The decline in DSLR sales is not from competition but because people are finding
    out that many excellent P&S cameras take photos every bit as good. They're not
    switching brands they're switching to more compact and feature-packed cameras
    for a much lower price. They're starting to get smarter. The only reason Nikon
    has ever been a competitor is because there's a foolish mystique that the
    "Nikon" name somehow means quality. I found out that wasn't true over 40 years
    ago, and they still haven't been able to change my findings about them. The only
    thing that Nikon means is thousands and thousands of world-wide repair shops
    that every Nikon owner eventually has to depend on. Sheep are sheep, they buy
    what they are told to buy. The more intelligent just shake their head as they
    leave the herd to find out there are much better cameras and lenses made by
    non-Nikon companies. The sheep keep buying Nikons. The more intelligent are
    moving to less-expensive and more efficient cameras.
     
    BaumBadier, Jul 14, 2007
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    Yoshi Guest

    Utter bullshit.
     
    Yoshi, Jul 14, 2007
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    Tony Polson Guest


    That is complete nonsense, because sales of compact digital cameras
    have stalled, and in some markets are actually going down. Meanwhile,
    sales of DSLRs are still growing strongly, at 20-30% year-on-year.

    But please feel free to continue deluding yourself.
     
    Tony Polson, Jul 14, 2007
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    Doug Jewell Guest

    In what way is the D40x "severely de-featured" when compared with the 400D?
    Is it because it will only have AF with AFS lenses?
    A quick look at dpreview shows that the D40x has the following advantages
    over the 400D...
    ISO 3200 vs 1600
    Inbuilt flash GN17 vs GN12
    Front or Rear curtain flash synch
    Spot metering
    +/-5EV Exposure compensation vs +/-2EV
    Unlimited shooting at 3FPS JPG (vs 27 frames on Canon)
    The Canon's advantages are...
    9 autofocus points

    Hardly makes the D40x "severely defeatured". I do think the canon's user
    interface is a bit more intuitive than the Nikon's, but that could be just
    because I've used the Canon a lot more.
     
    Doug Jewell, Jul 14, 2007
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    Alfred Molon Guest

    In absolute numbers or in Euro or dollars? The number of sold units of
    compact cameras should be way higher.
     
    Alfred Molon, Jul 14, 2007
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    Alan Browne Guest

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    Alan Browne Guest

    That's one of the worst based-in-non-fact broadbrushes against Nikon
    I've ever seen. Nikon optics are extremely good, esp. if one buys the
    "better" glass. The bodies are extremely good as well and all is no
    less reliable than other brands. You're welcome to produce real
    statistics to the contrary.

    My only peeve against Nikon is their decision to maintain the old lens
    mount for so long (unlike Minolta and Canon who reset) creating no
    little amount of confusion on lens/body feature compatibility. I
    suppose for those with a long Nikon history it is not a big deal.

    I bought a new lens last night (not Nikon) and against my usual practice
    decided to add an NC filter to protect the front element. As the lens
    is largish (77mm) and the front element is in-your-face out there, I
    decided that it should be protected. Offered the choice of a Hoya MC or
    a Nikon NIC for $20 more ... I took the Nikon non-filter. Why? Becasue
    the ring was thinner and less likely to contribute to vignetting.

    eg: Nikon made the better photographic product.

    Cheers,
    Alan
     
    Alan Browne, Jul 14, 2007
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    Matt Clara Guest

    Huh? (Is that you, Spadaro?) I've been shooting with Nikon for years
    (1995?), and have never had to send a camera in for repair; not my 8008s,
    F3HP, F100, (certainly not my D200) not the Nikormat that was given to me,
    nor have I had any of the lenses, flashes, etc. repaired. The F3HP I bought
    off of ebay for $127, battered and beaten, as far as I know, it's never been
    serviced, and it keeps on working exactly as it should. This is not to say
    Nikon hasn't made some lemons, but I believe they are keenly competetive
    today, and they aren't producing junk.
     
    Matt Clara, Jul 14, 2007
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