Nikon to support full size 35mm digital sensor after all...

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by ThomasH, Sep 26, 2003.

  1. ThomasH

    ThomasH Guest

    I wonder if this press release was noticed:

    Pop Photography Oct 2003 published on page 52 statement
    made by Makoto Kimura, president of Nikons imaging division.

    He said that the pro-line will in the future provide DSLR's
    with full size 35mm sensors, while the non-pro lineup will
    provide APS sized sensors backed by the DX line of lenses
    to cover for the wide angle needs.

    I am curious now when these full size models will be released?
    They just merely announced the D2H, which has still the smaller
    sensor...

    Thomas
     
    ThomasH, Sep 26, 2003
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Ina surprise announcement today, Konica-Minolta and Nikon have joined
    forces on a high resolution full framed sensor code named "Cigar".

    Cheers,
    Alan
     
    Alan Browne, Sep 26, 2003
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  3. I was a little surprised at that statement. Does no one remember the
    Osborne computer? They announced a new model with very desirable
    features would be coming at some point in the future... and people
    immediately stopped buying the current model, and the company tanked.

    I'd have bought a D100 long ago if it had a "full size" sensor, and was
    considering the purchase anyway.

    Now, after that announcement, I wouldn't touch one.
     
    Scott Schuckert, Sep 26, 2003
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    Tony Spadaro Guest

    Tony Spadaro, Sep 26, 2003
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  5. ThomasH

    Bowser Guest

    This is the kind of announcement that drives me crazy! In the future? When?
    And if I want to go ditigal now, and want to use a real wide angle lens, I
    have to buy a lens that won't work on a full-frame model in the future?! Did
    Canon plant a few moles in Nikon?
     
    Bowser, Sep 27, 2003
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    Wes J Guest

    Some report that even with the new sensor for the D2h, Nikon still has noise
    issues. Perhaps the only way around noise is to provide a full-frame
    sensor. Others have said this, but I was hoping for technology that would
    allow low noise in smaller sensors, and thus, smaller cameras and lenses.
     
    Wes J, Sep 27, 2003
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  7. ThomasH

    ThomasH Guest

    Indeed, that's why people is some positions must be very careful in
    what they say about their product politics. Of course home computers
    sell differently to pro-cameras. Individual users might tend to be
    impressed my macho insignia, such as "mega pixels" or even by the size
    of the sensor!, just like many "music specialists" would lookup some
    abstract wattage and noise in -nnn dB as their primary criterion
    of selection.

    I am sure that the small-sensor and "low Mpix" D2H has a lot of appeal
    to hard working press photographers. If is simply the by far fastest
    camera among contemporary models and the wireless download might sure
    safe images in critical environment, if someone would be trying to
    take the camera away and delete the images. The 12-24mm DX zoom has been
    tested very good (see Bjoerns review on http://www.naturfotograf.com/).
    These nice 12mm lenses provide the needed wide angle, so far not
    available to Canon users.
    If the full size sensor is important, I understand, but personally
    I am rather unhappy that D100 cannot meter manual lenses. That's a
    humbug. Smaller sensor has a lot of appeal. Just compare the prices
    of long lenses with focal lg times 1.5! Smaller sensor helps to
    enter long tele photography at a bargain price. If the resolution
    of the sensor is ok, I will gladly stay with the small sensor!

    Thomas
     
    ThomasH, Sep 27, 2003
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  8. ThomasH

    Guest Guest

    Sure do. In fact, I still have my Osborne Executive (in storage). In
    another 10 years I'll donate it to the Smithsonian.


    mailto: clix.at.xeropixdotcom
     
    Guest, Sep 27, 2003
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    Bowser Guest

    Hmmm....

    I seem to recall a certain D-SLR, available now, with very low noise levels
    all the way up to 1600.

    Nah, couldn't be. Nikon says it isn't possible.
     
    Bowser, Sep 27, 2003
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    Generic Eric Guest

    My brother collects Osbornes... (Don't ask... he clearly has less of a life
    than I do).
    Let me know if you're looking to sell.

    Sure do. In fact, I still have my Osborne Executive (in storage). In
    another 10 years I'll donate it to the Smithsonian.


    mailto: clix.at.xeropixdotcom
     
    Generic Eric, Sep 27, 2003
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    John Miller Guest

    Please email me with your email address. (A regular R)eply won't work,
    because of the recent spam storm. Instead, please check the brief
    instructions in my sig.

    --
    John Miller
    email: just say "jay es em at enfor veeoo dot com"
    and type what you hear

    "... And remember: if you don't like the news, go out and make some of
    your own."
    -"Scoop" Nisker, KFOG radio reporter Preposterous Words
     
    John Miller, Sep 27, 2003
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  12. Please email me with your email address. (A regular R)eply won't work,
    I can't for the life of me figure out what the hell your e-mail address is.
    I tried several domains, and none of them are registered.

    - Chris
     
    Chris Birkett, Sep 27, 2003
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    Loren Coe Guest

    Remarkable! the Executive was quite a nice package. i bot one
    at auction (new), played with it for a month, and sold it for
    a 300.00 profit. then years later, i passed on a nice model 1 for
    50.00, did i screw up? go figure... --Loren
     
    Loren Coe, Sep 27, 2003
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  14. ThomasH

    Guest Guest

    Naw. Not for sale. I like it. I even have the manual and proggys for it
    like DBII, WordStar, SuperCalc, etc. I keep stuff like that, not to
    collect per se, just to have. That's why I still hold on to my 1917
    Graflex and a B-17 Norden Bomb sight. Just cool stuff to own. :)


    mailto: clix.at.xeropixdotcom
     
    Guest, Sep 27, 2003
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    Tony Spadaro Guest

    I still occasionally use my WordStar -- but on a Pentium. I upgraded from
    3.2 to 4 though.

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    Naw. Not for sale. I like it. I even have the manual and proggys for it
    like DBII, WordStar, SuperCalc, etc. I keep stuff like that, not to
    collect per se, just to have. That's why I still hold on to my 1917
    Graflex and a B-17 Norden Bomb sight. Just cool stuff to own. :)


    mailto: clix.at.xeropixdotcom
     
    Tony Spadaro, Sep 27, 2003
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    Tony Spadaro Guest

    Tony Spadaro, Sep 27, 2003
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  17. Pop Photography is about as reliable as the toilet paper I use to wipe
    the shit from my hairy asshole and the cum from my cock!
     
    Darius Alexander, Sep 27, 2003
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    Doug Payne Guest

    I am curious now when these full size models will be released?
    Funny you should mention that. I betcha Thom Hogan remembers. He was
    once director of software at Osborne. He also writes extensively about
    Nikon. And in fact posted the full-frame sensor rumour quote on his Web
    site 10 days ago.
     
    Doug Payne, Sep 27, 2003
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  19. You never know. Years ago, I had more Apple Lisa computers than any
    private individual in the world - having been given dozens by a
    customer that was phasing them out. I also bought out an inventory of
    service parts from a computer dealer.

    I sold bits and pieces for a couple of years; at one point even Apple
    was referring people to me. Eventually, the value had dropped to almost
    zero and I sold off the remains to Boston College at $1/lb.

    Flash forward a few years and Lisas are bringing a fortume on eBay as
    collectables. <Sigh>
     
    Scott Schuckert, Sep 27, 2003
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  20. I am curious now when these full size models will be released?
    Remember that Nikon replaced the original D1 by two cameras,
    named D1H (high speed) and D1X (high resolution).

    I would not be at all surprised to find Nikon soon announcing
    a D2X camera with a full-frame sensor. Failing that, I would think
    it would be the D3 series.
     
    Andrew Koenig, Sep 27, 2003
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