Nikon user to Canon user questions...

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Andrew McCall, Nov 1, 2004.

  1. Hi Folks,

    I have recently decided to purchase a digital SLR, and have settled on
    a Canon EOS 20D.

    As I am not "moving" to digital (indeed I am still building my
    darkroom!) I would like to retain compatibility between a film camera
    and a digital camera for accessories and lenses. Due to this I am also
    thinking of trading my Nikon FM2n in for a newer Canon film camera.
    As you would expect, I have a few questions to ask!

    I haven't really looked at Canon equipment before so I don't really
    know what to get a the moment.

    In terms of Nikon/Canon equivalent, is the EOS 300v the same quality
    as the Nikon F100 or is there a more "professional" camera I should be
    looking at such as the EOS 1v or EOS 3? How much difference between
    the 300v, 3 and 1v is there?

    Also, if I wanted a fully manual camera that is similar to my Nikon
    FM2 that only uses a battery for the meter would I be able to get a
    Canon AE-1P and use my lenses across all three systems?

    Thanks,

    Andrew McCall
     
    Andrew McCall, Nov 1, 2004
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  2. Well, I can answer that part, anway: NO. Canon made a clean break
    when they started their autofocus lens line. There is no
    compatibility either way between the old lens mount and the new lens
    mount. The drawback of this is obvious; the benefit should be that
    their new autofocus mount is well-adapted to modern high-speed AF
    lenses. (In fact, there seems to be more compatibility trouble with
    third-party lenses on Canon cameras than anywhere else; this seems bad
    to me, but Canon may consider it a feature.)

    So there is no camera that's mechanical and doesn't use much battery
    power that's lens-compatible with the 20D. And there never will be.
     
    David Dyer-Bennet, Nov 1, 2004
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  3. Andrew McCall

    Alan Guest

    Isn't there a FD > EOS mount adaptor to allow old FD (MF) lenses to be used
    on EOS (AF) cameras?
     
    Alan, Nov 1, 2004
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  4. Andrew McCall

    Alan Guest

    I don't know the Nikon products very well, but have a look at the EOS 30 or
    33 models for a film body, as it's a better camera than the 300 range with
    more features. The 300 range is the basic beginners bodies AFAIK.
    I have a 20D and EOS 30 and swap lenses between them regulally. Also have
    several Sigma lenses which all work fine on both bodies.

    Alan.
     
    Alan, Nov 1, 2004
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  5. Sort of. Since the flange distance (register) is greater on the EOS
    mount, you will live with either additional optics (and focal length
    increase) or loss of infinity focus. Unlike Pentax and Minolta, Canon
    didn't try to preserve compatibility in designing their new
    mount. That might be because the register was unusually small on the
    FD mount: 42mm or so. The EOS at 44 is still smaller than Nikon
    (46.5mm) and Pentax (45.46), allowing simple converters for those
    lenses. Which was, perhaps, the intent. Minolta changed register only
    slightly (43.5 to 43.7) in designing their new mount, as far as I can
    tell.
     
    Stephen H. Westin, Nov 1, 2004
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    Skip M Guest

    The 1v is the Canon equivalent of the Nikon F5, the EOS3 is the equivalent
    of the F100, but probably a little closer to the higher model. The 300
    series are the bottom feeders, equivalent to the F65/70. There's the Canon
    EOS30/33, right there with the F80, but lacking a spot meter. For a spot
    meter, you must have the 3 or 1v.
    There is no fully manual camera that uses the EOS EF mount lenses, and the
    old FD mount lenses are not compatible, unless you can find one of the out
    of production adaptors.
     
    Skip M, Nov 1, 2004
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  7. Yes, but the limitations depend on the adapter. One type causes you to
    lose infinity focus, and another type is effectively a teleconverter.
    You're much better off getting (or keeping) an FD mount body for your
    FD glass. A _lot_ of AE-1's and AE-1p's have led sheltered lifes inside
    a camera bag stuffed into the back of a closet. Many only need replacement
    light seals and new batteries to shoot again.
     
    Michael Benveniste, Nov 1, 2004
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  8. As already stated: The counterpart of the F100 is the EOS 3. The EOS
    300v is a rather low-end consumer camera and would be tremendous
    disappointment when coming from an F100.
    Nope. This is Canon, and they've changed the mount when moving from MF
    to AF (hence EF-mount and FD-mount). Why not keep your FM2 (+lenses) and
    get a digital camera of whatever brand with its own lenses? Nikon's
    D70/D100 don't meter with MF lenses...

    Gregor
     
    Gregor Kofler, Nov 1, 2004
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  9. AnOvercomer02, Nov 1, 2004
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  10. (I) wrote:
    The 50 1.8 is an excellent lens and at less than $75.00 new, no
    photographer should be without one.
    ================================

    That is unless you have/get the 50 f1.4.
    If you want a mid level, midrange zoom, then I recommend the 28-105
    f3.5-4.5 USM (not the f4.0-5.6 USM- avoid this one). The 24-85 f3.5-4.5
    USM and 28-135 f3.5-5.6 IS USM are good too, but a little more
    expensive, the latter one has Image Stabilization. There's also the
    24-70 f2.8 which is a very good Pro lens but it is very expensive. I've
    read good things about the 85 f1.8 and I have it on my "to get list".


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    Cody,

    http://community-2.webtv.net/AnOvercomer02/PhotographyLinks
     
    AnOvercomer02, Nov 1, 2004
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  11. Andrew McCall

    Bill Hilton Guest

    From: (Andrew McCall)
    The 1V is the heavy-duty pro model, built like a tank. The digital equivalent
    is the 1Ds and 1D Mark II.

    The EOS-3 is closer to the 1V than the consumer models but without the weight
    and weather proofing of the 1V.

    I don't follow the low end but the Elan is a good consumer model and the Rebel
    is the low end consumer model.

    The EOS-3 and the 1V have better AF (45 points) and both allow you to AF with
    lenses with a min aperture of f/8 while the consumer models only AF with f/5.6
    or wider lenses. This is important if you use say a 1.4x converter with an
    f/5.6 lens or a 2x with the f/4 lenses (something I do often so I think this
    feature is worthwhile).

    I think the 20D is built on the Elan body, FWIW.
    No.
     
    Bill Hilton, Nov 2, 2004
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  12. Andrew McCall

    Skip M Guest

    The 20D uses some of the Elan's electronics, like ETT-L II, but has its own
    unique body and focusing system. The Elan is plastic, the 20D is magnesium,
    mostly.
     
    Skip M, Nov 2, 2004
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