Nikon v Canon Color

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by patrick.oden, Sep 23, 2008.

  1. patrick.oden

    patrick.oden Guest

    I am a photojournalist shooting a Nikon D200. I notice my peers that
    are shooting Canon seem to have less trouble getting good color. I am
    looking to upgrade bodies, the D700 would be my first choice, but I
    don't want another D200 experience. Has Nikon fixed the color issue or
    is it just time to bite the bullet and switch to Canon?
     
    patrick.oden, Sep 23, 2008
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  2. This post is off-topic for this newsgroup, rec.photo.equipment.35mm,
    which is concerned with film cameras that use 35mm film, not digital
    cameras that look like 35mm SLRs (DSLRs).

    Since this post concerns such cameras, the appropriate place for it is
    rec.photo.digital.slr. Please post there in the future.
     
    David Nebenzahl, Sep 24, 2008
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  3. patrick.oden

    Scott W Guest

    Before you jump ships you might want to spend some time with a raw
    converter and learn how to get the color you are looking for. You are
    likely to find your peers have more skills at converting raw files
    then better cameras.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Sep 24, 2008
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  4. First, you might get more response by posting in rec.photo.digital.slr-
    systems, the appropriate group for your query.* But to answer your
    question...

    Before you abandon your Nikon and incur the great expense of switching to
    another system, set your color space to AdobeRGB, if you can, to gain a
    larger color range; adjust the in camera contrast and saturation to fit
    shooting conditions; ditto for white balance. In other words, don't
    leave everything set to "auto."

    For example, I use a Nikon D50 with the SB-600 flash to supplement
    ambient light for documenting architectural interiors and exteriors for
    real estate agents, contractors, etc. I greatly improved the quality of
    my images by changing the color space from sRGB, the default, to
    AdobeRGB, and lowering the contrast to -2, the lowest setting. With
    mixed lighting sources like one finds with interiors, I leave the white
    balance set to auto, but for daylight exteriors with clear blue skies I
    set it to "Flash," otherwise, the images are decidedly blue. For "night"
    lit interiors mostly by incandescent lights, I use the "incandescent" or
    "tungsten" settings, and put an 85B "gel" filter over the flash for color
    balanced fill.

    With my few adjustments, my Nikon D50 images compare favorably--color and
    contrast-wise--with a friend's Canon 5D, although his images have less
    noise. He was actually surprised that my D50 did so well under the same
    shooting conditions.

    So, before you switch, run some tests.

    Stef


    *FWIW: rec.photo.equipment.35mm was originally established 20+ years ago
    or so, long before digital photography came to prominence, for ANY still
    camera (not just SLRs) that used 35mm film, hence the name. Although,
    over the months this year, it has been slowly commandeered by digital
    users. Why the need to, I don't know. There are, after all, 3 or 4
    groups dedicated specifically to digital systems.
     
    Stefan Patric, Sep 24, 2008
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  5. patrick.oden

    Pete D Guest

    Isn't it obvious, David N has attacked so many people and they got their
    backs up, if he had simply never said anything many would have just never
    bothered and would have gone away. So before you blame everyone else have a
    few words with the broken record himself. It is not what he has said in this
    group so much, it is because he has multi-crossposted to just about every
    photo group he can every chance he gets, the cure is far worse than the
    disease.

    Cheers.

    Pete
     
    Pete D, Sep 25, 2008
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  6. You're not a photo journalist. No photo journalist would have such poor
    command of English or ask such a pathetically naive question.

    Why bother with the BS? Just ask a question if you wish, but do it without
    pretense.

    Auntie
     
    Auntie Establishment, Sep 25, 2008
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  7. patrick.oden

    Noons Guest

    Auntie Establishment wrote,on my timestamp of 25/09/2008 11:15 PM:

    pssst:
    it's called a Canon "shill".
    Very common.
     
    Noons, Sep 25, 2008
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  8. patrick.oden

    Noons Guest

    Pete D wrote,on my timestamp of 25/09/2008 10:02 PM:
    That is a load of bullshit. First of all, it's not just David.
    Second, the digital crap in here is promoted SOLELY by
    a group of crap "photographers" from pbase who do this all
    the time: find a low volume newsgroup and take it over
    with their totally off-topic rubbish.

    Mostly to shill for pbase, but also for their own little
    digital camera concerns.
    It's called a scam.
    But of course you'll never give it the proper name, preferring
    instead the rubbish about "David-the-bad-guy".
    He heard him. That is why he replied.
    And demonstrating the point that you and
    your other pack of digital-heads have
    no place here.
    He only "multi-crossposts" what is already
    "multi-crossposted", usually by your band of
    misfits.
     
    Noons, Sep 25, 2008
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  9. patrick.oden

    tony cooper Guest

    I see one comma splice. Where is the "poor command of English"?

    Don't tell me it's the "that" instead of a "who", 'cause "that" ain't
    wrong.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 25, 2008
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  10. patrick.oden

    Annika1980 Guest

    Noons, your brain is due for a firmware upgrade. Maybe you can send
    it to Canon?

    OK folks, you heard it. ALL of you people talking about digital are
    just PBase shills.
    Busted! Guess we'll have to go find nother group to infiltrate now.
     
    Annika1980, Sep 25, 2008
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  11. Yes. Like rec.photo.digital.slr, like I've been saying all along.

    Go for it!
     
    David Nebenzahl, Sep 25, 2008
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  12. Technically not wrong, but no decent journalist would use that word
    there. ("That" generally refers to objects, "who" or "whom" to persons.)
     
    David Nebenzahl, Sep 25, 2008
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  13. patrick.oden

    tony cooper Guest

    What a bizarre conclusion. You have used "decent" to mean "qualified"
    or "professional", yet you criticize him for word choice. You equate
    a casual newsgroup posting with writing for publication. You admit
    the usage isn't wrong, but you don't admit that your hyperbolic
    statement about his poor command is English was wrong and that his
    question was inappropriate.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 25, 2008
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  14. I didn't say anything about his poor command of English. That was
    someone else.

    And the guy *did* claim he was a journalist, after all. (A profession
    that would seem to require a certain level of writing skill.)
     
    David Nebenzahl, Sep 26, 2008
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  15. David, I have to disagree with you on this one. He did say he was
    a journalist, he never claimed to be fluent in English. I got the
    impression reading his post he was not.

    Despite what "us" native english speakers think, English is spoken by
    relatively few people in the world.

    Geoff.
     
    Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Sep 26, 2008
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  16. patrick.oden

    PeteD Guest

    OMG you have finally won.

    Nah just kidding, you are still a loser.

    Oh and take the advice below, fight the fights you can win.
     
    PeteD, Sep 26, 2008
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  17. patrick.oden

    Noons Guest

    Annika1980 wrote,on my timestamp of 26/09/2008 2:08 AM:
    Narh, the imagery is working fine: sending it
    to Canon would make it a lot worse.

    How come your buddies ALL WITHOUT EXCEPTION post
    their photos in pbase, then?

    Piss off then?
     
    Noons, Sep 29, 2008
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  18. patrick.oden

    Annika1980 Guest

    That's simply not true. Alan Browne, for example, posts on photo.net.
    Rita uses flickr. Others, like Jim Kramer, Troy Piggins, Paul Furman,
    etc. have their own websites.

    So who are you talking about? Scott W? Ok, that's 1.
     
    Annika1980, Sep 29, 2008
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  19. patrick.oden

    Noons Guest

    Annika1980 wrote,on my timestamp of 30/09/2008 12:00 AM:
    Stop lying, Bret.
    It's pathological, with you.
    And you are convinced no one else
    knows what goes on just because
    you yell "it's not true"?
     
    Noons, Sep 29, 2008
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  20. patrick.oden

    jimkramer Guest

    That's simply not true. Alan Browne, for example, posts on photo.net.
    Rita uses flickr. Others, like Jim Kramer, Troy Piggins, Paul Furman,
    etc. have their own websites.

    So who are you talking about? Scott W? Ok, that's 1.


    Stop trying to be rational with the insane; it won't work...
    -Jim
     
    jimkramer, Sep 29, 2008
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