Nikon's Buisness Practice

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Jonesy, Sep 9, 2003.

  1. I have kept one in my car for at least the last 15 years, through summer and the
    winter. It gets used in only the harshest places where I just don't want to risk
    my F100, FE2, F3 or N70. It's the one I use on the beach for family shots. This
    thing gets hammered and I can't kill it. I picked it up at an estate sale for
    about $50 and it gets no respect. Although it's auto only, the meter is actually
    very good and one can always compensate with the ASA setting. The backlight comp
    gives very good results. And that winder is mighty slick indeed.

    Mark Tuccillo, Sep 12, 2003
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  2. Jonesy

    Nick Zentena Guest

    The thing is you can pickup a 60's consumer camera and have a fair chance
    it'll still work. I've got a 50 year old folder that was aimed at the budget
    segment. It still works 100%.

    Nick Zentena, Sep 12, 2003
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  3. Jonesy:

    Do you really think it is possible for a company to "overprice" their
    products? Each consumer makes their own decision on
    price/features/support/quality/brand and then purchases something.

    Companies do all kinds of things with price, but in a competitive market
    with no collusion (which I would say this is) there is no such thing as an
    overpriced product. If it is overpriced nobody buys it.

    Do they still overcharge for bodies? If so why does anybody buy them??

    Tom - Chicago
    Tom - Chicago, Sep 12, 2003
  4. Brings to mind a few related points, that the true worth of an item is
    detemined by the individual buyer. If they believe the price an item is
    offered at is reasonable they may buy it and be happy. Occasionally people
    are subject to impulsiveness, but this is not the fault of the merchandise
    or it's price. I do think many manufacturers try to price their stuff
    according to its real value, but again that is a subjective determination.
    They may be justifiably proud of their product and seek to price it
    accordingly, but as stated if the market won't accept that price it will
    fall, or the product will wither on the vine. There are still other
    marketing techniques where a well made product is offered far below what it
    might fetch if priced realistically. This in my view is a drive to outsell a
    competitor at any cost, and requires considerable reserves to weather the
    minimal profits that could result. Where companies are heavily subsidized in
    some way, dumping becomes a practical if nearly immoral tool. I think in the
    end Nikon and Canon's approach to sales and profits are arrived at with
    different methodologies. Nikon prices its product more or less
    realistically, and Canon is willing to give a bit to generate volume. Who is
    right? Who cares, as long as you can appreciate the thing you bought, and
    accept the price you willingly paid. I do think it is more true in
    photographic circles than in most areas that you get what you pay for. I
    that regard we are lucky, we could be getting robbed, yet I won't point up
    some areas in photographia, where we might well be getting robbed. I think
    everyone knows already.
    John Garrison, Sep 12, 2003
  5. But the FM3A wasn't available back then. The FE was, though, and it's
    probably the closest thing. The market has changed significantly.
    To determine whether the EM was overpriced, compare it to other
    cameras available in the same era.

    By your logic, the Apple II was way overpriced, because you can
    get a much more powerful computer for much less money today --
    yet the Apple sold very well because lots of people perceived
    it as a better value than anything else available at that time.
    The camera market hasn't changed quite as much as the computer
    market, but it has definitely changed.

    In the spring of 1980, I bought my FM for $200.00. The early 80s
    were times of high inflation, so there was probably an increase
    between 1980 and 1982, but it sounds like the EM was in the same
    ballpark as the FM, perhaps a bit more expensive. That's about
    what I'd expect for something with less control but more automation.

    Richard Cochran, Sep 12, 2003
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