No fun choosing between DMC-TZ1, Fuji F30 and DMC-FX01 - need your bias....

Discussion in 'Fuji' started by Greg Loriman, Sep 8, 2006.

  1. Greg Loriman

    Greg Loriman Guest

    Hello excellent persons,

    I'm finding the decision between the three camera's above more than usually
    painful, and I can't afford to buy them all, or even two. Its rather like
    being dragged by three horses in opposing directions; if I were to
    exaggerate.

    The features I am coverting are the obvious (apart from each being quite
    small) :

    TMC-TZ1 : 10x optical zoom with OIS and anti-blur in a small space
    F30 : absurdly high ISO and decent images
    DMC-FX01 : wide-angle lense

    I'd love to know your opinion, particularly if you have experience of more
    than one of the above.

    These three camera's unique features balance against one another, and the
    prices are too close (even allowing for xD cards), so all I can hope is that
    something some says tips that balance. Perhaps just simply that one of them
    was more fun than the other.

    Help me in my predicament! My limbs are about to fall off.

    thanks

    Greg
     
    Greg Loriman, Sep 8, 2006
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    m Ransley Guest

    What do you usualy photograph.
     
    m Ransley, Sep 8, 2006
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  3. Greg Loriman

    Greg Loriman Guest

    Thanks for the reply.

    A pertinant question, but I should have made more explicit in my original
    post that I am much more interested in subjective opinions than judgments
    taking into consideration my needs. I hope you'll agree with me that I am a
    better judge of other people's subjective opinion as applied to my needs
    than anyone else, other than God, of course.

    Greg
     
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    Bob Williams Guest

    I'd forger the Panny FX01.
    It's main "redeeming" feature is a slightly wider angle than the others.
    But this new WA lens isn't up to Leica's high standard.
    For a 6MP lens it is not very sharp.
    See: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonicfx01/page8.asp
    The F10 used in this comparison has been replaced by the F30 which is
    even more full featured and sharper than the F10.
    See: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilmf30/page8.asp
    So it boils down to this.
    10X zoom vs 3x zoom......Advantage Panny
    Low noise images from indoor low light shots.....Advantage Fuji
    "Gain Up" of Viewing Screen in low light scenes.....Advantage Fuji
    Although I am a great fan of Panny EVF Superzooms / Leica Lenses, in
    this case I'd go with the Fuji. (Unless, of course, you really want 10X
    Zoom, then it is no contest).
    Bob Williams
     
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    m Ransley Guest

    And there is no comparison of the fuji f30 to TZ1, two totaly different
    cameras, at least you should be comparing similars
     
    m Ransley, Sep 8, 2006
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  6. Greg Loriman

    Greg Loriman Guest

    Thanks for the reply.

    Ok, but it must be obvious from what I've written that I can't answer that
    question. I don't have a particular photographic leaning; that's why each of
    these camera's unique abilities are causing me such a problem. I appreciate
    that in attempting to help me that the imprecise question could result in
    you responding with pages of stuff, but there's nothing to stop you only
    giving one or two particularly stand-out observations of your use of one of
    the cameras, which is what I'm looking for. I'm not asking for a full
    description in order to cover all possibilities; rather I am asking for
    anything about these camera's that inspires strong feelings, positive and
    negative.

    I can then contemplate those observations in respect of myself, and by that
    I mean : what do your feelings make me feel. I hope to to sway towards or
    away from the candidates. This isn't a purely rational process because I've
    already done the rational side (reading reviews etc) and I am stuck. So now
    it boils down to whatever strong meat you guys can offer me that might
    resolve the problem.

    Its enough to say, as I mentioned before, I've tried both X and Y and Y was
    way more fun, but X was way more useful. Something similarly unscientific
    even if your observation is for only one camera, or two even though you
    didn't try the second, is just fine.

    Greg
     
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    Greg Loriman Guest

    No, I don't agree at all. Mr Ransleys question was an absolutely
    Perfect. Ironic that that is this is just what I am looking for.
     
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    Greg Loriman Guest

    I'd forger the Panny FX01.
    Cool. I like the answer. Thanks.
     
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    Greg Loriman Guest

    TMC-TZ1 : 10x optical zoom with OIS and anti-blur in a small space
    Lovely! Thanks for a great response.
     
    Greg Loriman, Sep 8, 2006
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    Greg Loriman Guest

    Quite. But not only fun; that was just an example.
     
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    Greg Loriman Guest

    I love it. Excellent answer. Thank you for that.
     
    Greg Loriman, Sep 8, 2006
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    Greg Loriman Guest

    Which is my right as you began the unpleasantries.
     
    Greg Loriman, Sep 8, 2006
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    Kinon O'cann Guest

    Here's my take:

    FX01: Great lens, wide angle, very small and light, image stabilization,
    nice LCD and control set. Picture quality is very good to excellent.

    F30: Better at high ISO, but you need it because of the lack of image
    stabilization. No wide angle lens, nice LCD, OK controls, very good to
    excellent picture quality.

    TZ1: Very small and light for a superzoom cam, so it's not a fair comparison
    to the other two cams; it's totally different. Great lens, very good picture
    quality, no wide angle, nice LCD, nice feature set and control set.

    I made the same choice a while ago, and chose the FX01. The IS and wide
    angle were features that I really wanted, and didn't need a superzoon cam. I
    haven't regretted the decision for one second.
     
    Kinon O'cann, Sep 8, 2006
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  14. Greg Loriman

    Greg Loriman Guest

    You seem to be trying to guess my motivations. Its not as presumptuous as
    the other chap, but its not necessary either.
    If you don't want to answer my original question, perhaps because you don't
    understand it or have no real experience of those cameras, then don't.
    I am not looking for anything like this. I just want your story, as long or
    short as you like, and I'll gratefully make of it whatever I can.

    Greg
     
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    Greg Loriman Guest

    [snip]
    Golly, thats a big one. hmmm
    Not bad. I like it, actually. No serious report of 'feelings', but I can't
    complain too much about that since you are a chap, after all. I can see that
    with an early problem of the sort you mentioned you aren't able to say "its
    useful", "its fun" etc.

    Did you use any sort of case, or did it frequently go into a pocket?

    Greg
     
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