No one speaks english anymore??

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Michael, Dec 23, 2003.

  1. Michael

    Michael Guest

    Ok, since a lot of people abroad from America probably read this group I'm
    going to post it here and hopefully get some good feedback. I was born and
    raised on the East Coast of the US. I grew up in not so nice neighborhoods
    so I have some street smarts and I'm aware of what's going on out there. I
    am not a prejudice person. I've worked since I was legally able to and the
    feds have been sucking taxes out of me ever since. I currently live in
    Central NJ, where it's busy and crowded. I've realized that most stores,
    fast food establishments, gas stations, service companies, anything that's
    retail the people that work there do not speak much English. Today I was
    shopping and tried to ask some questions about a product that was being
    sold. The sales associate had a very strong accent and I couldn't understand
    him. He actually got upset with me because I couldn't understand what he was
    saying. Another sales associate came over which had an accent himself, but
    not as strong as the first guy. The second gentlemen was hard to understand
    also. For some reason these two guys got arrogant with me because I couldn't
    understand them! I believe it was a Spanish accent. I indicated to them that
    I wanted to speak to an English speaking sales associate and they got
    offended and tried to play it off that I was prejudice and didn't like
    Hispanics. My god, all I wanted was some questions answered about a product.
    To my disbelief the store supervisor was understandable, but also had a
    heavy accent. Let me ask...is it appropriate for people that do not speak
    the English language correctly to insult or be arrogant to some one that
    does in an English speaking country? Last time I checked when I saw the
    President on TV he was speaking English with no accent. I want to know why
    in the hell would these Hispanic employees get mad at me because I don't
    understand them? Do they think I'm going to actually learn their language or
    feel ashamed that I didn't understand them? I would think they would be
    ashamed because they can't speak the English language correctly, buy lemme
    tell you...they have no shame whatsoever. This is just one small incident
    that happens to me on a daily basis. I refuse to buy fast food at
    drive-throughs anymore. If you don't speak Spanish, you'll never get what
    you want. When you purchase gasoline (in NJ you can't pump yourself) you
    have to tell the attendant 5 times what you want and speak like you are
    talking to a 5 year old. I think I'm getting a little frustrated nowadays
    that these companies don't care if their employees don't even speak the
    language correctly as long as they take the cheapest salary I guess. If I
    were to move to another country I would certainly learn and be fluent in
    that language and make sure I was ashamed if I couldn't speak it correctly.
    I have no sympathy or feelings for these type (not all of them) of people
    anymore that don't care.
     
    Michael, Dec 23, 2003
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    gsum Guest

    Tha's in't wrong group lad. This has nowt to do
    wi' cameras.
     
    gsum, Dec 23, 2003
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  3. There are US states with more people speaking spanish than english,
    and spanish will probably become the 2nd official language in those
    states within a few years, and later your 2nd national language.

    Have it from "completely unbiased" american friends from last time I
    was in Arnieland.
     
    Povl H. Pedersen, Dec 23, 2003
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  4. Michael

    Alan D-W Guest

    Que? No comprende.

    What the hell has this rant got to do with digital photography please?

    These days society is multicultural, live with it. It's not only America,
    it's here in the UK too. It's everywhere.
     
    Alan D-W, Dec 23, 2003
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  5. Let me ask... do they teach people in the US to use paragraphs in
    their text?

    Frank
     
    Frank van der Pol, Dec 23, 2003
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  6. Michael

    Mike Guest

    Frank,
    Come to little old England our customer services in banking, insurance and
    telephone companies are mainly, or soon going to be, in India.

    Where they speak pucker English ( sounds like Welsh accent). The trouble
    with this is, they are probably better educated that the people they serve.

    They are mainly university graduates and the money they earn is better that
    the indigenous work available locally can pay, but its cheaper for our
    industries to do this and soon nobody will be working in England.

    I feel sorry for them and us as we cant get past them to talk to management
    in England and they will have to answer the phone to irate people thousands
    of miles away all day every day until they retire.

    At least the Americans look after their own, or do they, Is it cheap labour
    wage slaves in India and the Hispanics in America that caused them to do
    what they end up doing?!

    MikeS
     
    Mike, Dec 23, 2003
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  7. Michael

    Mark Herring Guest

    Well, where to start?

    1. Yes, you have a point. We're a great melting pot.
    Personally, I don't get upset at all the different cultures, but it is
    disturbing that our laws and customs are inconsistent. Witness the
    driver's license issue in CA.

    2. Doesn't the same thing happen in a lot of big cities around
    the world?

    3. Admire your comment about learning the language if you moved
    somewhere else. Most Americans do not have that attitude.

    4. Dubya speaks English??---Not anytime I heard him speak.

    5. Finally, please be aware that your written English is not that
    great. You have one big run-on paragraph, plus some very clumsy
    sentence structures and grammatical errors. You might want to
    consider getting your own house in order.
    **************************
    Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
    Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".
     
    Mark Herring, Dec 23, 2003
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  8. Michael

    Michael Guest

    I wrote that last post in about 3 minutes. I type faster then most
    people speak. My grammar was sloppy, but I didn't need to be correct to get
    my point across.

    I also heard that a Cuban refugee once steps foot on American soil get's
    asylum here, $5000 and free healthcare. If this is true, I want some of that
    action. When I was born, I didn't get free money and healthcare. My parents
    just got a large bill from the hospital. Strange. Maybe I need to move to
    Wyoming in the middle of no where. I think I'll be happier there and I'm
    sure there's plenty to take pictures of.

    Having different cultured people here from other countries is not what
    bothers me. I indicated this in my original post. It's the fact that I get
    an arrogant attitude and treated badly because I can't understand their
    native language.
     
    Michael, Dec 23, 2003
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    PhotoMan Guest

    Not too long ago in Miami, Florida, there was a public referendum on making
    Spanish the 'first' language in the schools. Will the last American to leave
    town please bring the flag.
    Joe Arnold
     
    PhotoMan, Dec 23, 2003
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  10. Michael

    Paul Heslop Guest

    Michael wrote:
    and you forgot to ask whether they sold digital cameras?
     
    Paul Heslop, Dec 23, 2003
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  11. Michael

    Paul Heslop Guest

    The same thing is happening in the states too, ask Michael Moore.
     
    Paul Heslop, Dec 23, 2003
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  12. Michael

    Paul Heslop Guest

    And what do people from other cultures not speaking english have to do with
    photography?
     
    Paul Heslop, Dec 23, 2003
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  13. Michael

    Michael Guest

    It doesn't matter. Just because the topic is photography doesn't mean we
    can't ever talk about some thing else. Many people responded with some good
    information and their ideas about the whole thing. It was interesting
    reading. Also, don't blame me because you read some thing that didn't have
    anything to do with photography. I made sure my subject in the original post
    was accurate and you still read it. Not my fault, sorry.
     
    Michael, Dec 23, 2003
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    Chris Quinn Guest

    I presume by your logic that you should fit in with the people of the land
    that you are moving to that you speak Arapaho or Apache?
     
    Chris Quinn, Dec 23, 2003
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  15. Michael

    Dan Sullivan Guest

    "Que?
     
    Dan Sullivan, Dec 23, 2003
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    Lionel Guest

    Dear troll,

    I have no idea what newsgroups this rant would be on-topic in, but a
    photography group isn't one of them.

    Please try harder next time!

    Cheers,

    Lionel.
     
    Lionel, Dec 23, 2003
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  17. Michael

    Dan Sullivan Guest

    Que?
     
    Dan Sullivan, Dec 23, 2003
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  18. Michael

    Lionel Guest

    You think the original post is even slightly on-topic in a photgraphy
    newsgroup?
     
    Lionel, Dec 23, 2003
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  19. Michael

    Lionel Guest

    Too true. It's very difficult to learn a new language after about 10
    years of age or so. I lived for about a year in Hong Kong during the
    dotcom boom, & learnt less than a dozen words of Chinese. On the bright
    side, I got *really* good at expressing myself with signs, & learnt to
    speak English with a Chinese accent, which is vitally important if you
    want your cab to end up on the correct side of the island.
    I felt much the same way until I found myself in the position of
    actually having to do it. I, like most people, am lazy & found it much
    simpler to hang out with other English speakers, rather than learn the
    local language properly. Since then, I've been much more sypathetic
    towards immigrants who find it difficult to pick up English.
    Not a thing. I'm guessing that the OP is one of the latest batch of
    trolls.
     
    Lionel, Dec 23, 2003
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  20. Michael

    Lionel Guest

    Oh dear.
    I think you mean 'pukkha', also known in England as 'Bombay Welsh'.
    Or even the people they argue with on Usenet. ;)
    Hahahaha! - America was the first country to outsource tech-support work
    to India.

    Greedy bosses, IMO.
     
    Lionel, Dec 23, 2003
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