No one speaks english anymore??

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Michael, Dec 23, 2003.

  1. Michael

    Guest Guest

    most supermarkets here have pharmacies as part of the store. even
    walmart has a pharmacy. you still need a prescription, unless it's over
    the counter medication such as aspirin or tylenol.
     
    Guest, Mar 28, 2013
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  2. Michael

    Savageduck Guest

    I believe you will find that in a time of the not so recent past when a
    knowledge of Latin was a requirement of many, if not all Anglo-Saxon
    medical students in Britain and the colonies. Both my in-laws were
    doctors educated at Bristol University in the UK, and both were quite
    familiar with Latin usage for the mundane act of writing a
    prescription. One of the Latin script abbreviations in common usage was
    Rx usually written with the "x" formed by a stroke through the bottom
    of the right leg of the "R". I believe that if you query of a doctor in
    NZ of our vintage as to his understanding of the abbreviation "Rx" he
    will tell you that it is shorthand for the first instruction on a
    prescription, derived from the Latin "recipere" or "take".

    So "take this medication four times daily" could be written "Rx med QID".

    As I am sure you are well aware, the USA is one of those former English
    colonies which retains many quaint archaic usages of the English
    language which have faded into retirement in fair Albion.
     
    Savageduck, Mar 28, 2013
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  3. Michael

    Eric Stevens Guest

    I'm not questioning the validity of your interpretation of Rx. I was
    responding to your remark to Whisky-Dave "Then your World is narrowly
    focused". I have first hand experience/knowledge of prescriptions in
    UK, New Zealand, Australia and India and to the best of my kno
     
    Eric Stevens, Mar 29, 2013
  4. Michael

    Savageduck Guest


    When I wrote in response to Dave, he of the disturbing G2 Usenet
    client, "Then your World is narrowly focused", I did so in reaction to
    his lack of awareness of an abbreviation in common use by US doctors,
    and by several UK, South African, and Indian doctors I know personally.
    It is very much an archaic Latin relic, from a time not so long ago. I
    made what seems to be a false assumption, that "Rx" was still in use in
    the UK and those places which fell under its influence.

    As I said, my father-in-law, and my mother-in-law were both doctors and
    my wife was a radiologist, so I have a fair familiarity with things
    medical. As for me, before going into Law enforcement, my education
    took me to a job in a pathology lab, and then two jobs in the
    pharmaceutical industry with Lederle Labs & Schering. Some of that work
    led me to my work in Law Enforcement.

    BTW: One of my cousin's sons, and his wife are both practicing
    specialists in NZ. He is a pathologist and I believe she is a
    psychiatrist.

    You have a "kno"?
    I would get that treated as soon as possible.
     
    Savageduck, Mar 29, 2013
  5. Michael

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Most of the ads are place by supermarkets and Wal-Mart. Every
    supermarket that I know of has a pharmacy department. I only know of
    two free-standing pharmacies in this area, and one is a compounding
    pharmacy. Supermarket ads for their pharmacy departments don't
    advertise any specific product...just service and better pricing with
    general statements. I don't think the drugstores advertise their
    pharmacy departments.
     
    Tony Cooper, Mar 29, 2013
  6. Michael

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Well, every supermarket chain outlet has a pharmacy department. It's
    no different from the pharmacy department in a drug store except that
    the supermarket pharmacies don't usually make up a prescription. You
    don't pick up prescription products off a shelf.

    By "make up", I really mean "count out". A drug store pharmacy might
    stock a particular medication in bulk and count them out to fill an
    individual prescription. The supermarket version usually has them
    pre-counted in standard quantities (ie: 30 pills per bottle). The
    supermarket will have a dispensing pharmacy somewhere in town and make
    deliveries to the branches each day. If I phone in a re-fill in the
    morning, it's ready for pick-up after 3PM.

    Other stores like Wal-Mart, Target, Costco, etc have pharmacy
    departments.

    There are only a few pharmacy-only businesses in this area.

    The above is correct for the Orlando area and most places in Florida,
    but I can't vouch for what is in place in other states.
     
    Tony Cooper, Mar 29, 2013
  7. Michael

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Well, Eric, you can look at the person writing the post and pretty
    much guess where his or her focus is.

    Ireland uses Rx: http://www.iach.knox.amedd.army.mil/pharmacy.asp

    The term is not unknown in the UK: http://www.rxsystems.co.uk/ and is
    used by a company that designs prescription software.
     
    Tony Cooper, Mar 29, 2013
  8. Michael

    Guest Guest

    every single one?? you must be awful busy visiting all those stores.

    the reality is that *most* supermarket chains have a pharmacy, however,
    some have pharmacies only in select stores, which means the store
    closest to you might not have pharmacy. also, some supermarket chains
    don't have pharmacies at all no matter which store you go to.
    maybe yours does, but that would be unusual.

    every supermarket pharmacy i've seen counts it out just like any other
    pharmacy would. you can *see* them doing it. and you don't even have to
    have a prescription filled to see it.
     
    Guest, Mar 29, 2013
  9. Michael

    David Taylor Guest

    Pass.
     
    David Taylor, Mar 29, 2013
  10. Michael

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Nothing was said on my part about a minority of people not having
    insurance. That's something you've brought up in some sort of weak
    defense for your position that people don't need to shop for
    prescription prices.

    Your position dismisses the needs of 50.7 million people without
    insurance. And, that figure doesn't represent the number of people
    who might shop for prescription prices. People who *are* insured may
    have hospitalization coverage but not prescription drug coverage. Many
    plans don't cover both.

    People who are insured by Medicare Part A and/or Part B do not have
    prescription drug coverage unless they also subscribe to Part D or
    Medicare Advantage Plan Part C. Or, they can subscribe - and pay for
    - a supplemental drug plan.

    That's millions more that may shop prescription drug prices. And,
    millions more that may be on a fixed income.

    Also, because you view things through a pinhole instead of the larger
    picture, you think that all insurance plans have $15/$30 co-pays (or
    whatever it is yours is). That's not the case. Plans vary all over
    the place and some require a minimum amount spent before the co-pay
    kicks in or higher co-pays.

    You have a rather callous view about the needs of millions of people.
    You dismiss the problems that over 50 million Americans may have.
    Since only 12.5 million (estimated 2009) have cancer, do you also
    believe that cancer is not a problem?
     
    Tony Cooper, Mar 29, 2013
  11. Michael

    Tony Cooper Guest

    A licensed Pharmacy Technician can dispense pre-packaged drugs in
    Florida. Only a licensed Pharmacist can compound and package drugs
    for retail sale in Florida. Pharmacy Technicians are less costly to
    hire.

    A supermarket doesn't want to give up any more floorspace to the
    pharmacy than it needs to. The space needed to count and package
    medications is dead space financially when that part can be done
    centrally elsewhere. A supermarket rates space usage by the return.

    For those reasons, what you will normally see in a Florida supermarket
    pharmacy is a small amount of square feet, two to four Pharmacy
    Technicians, and shelves of pre-packaged medications. No Pharmacist,
    no counting/packaging table, no bulk supplies.

    As far as this being "unusual", I don't know about the other 49
    states, but I suspect you don't either. Unless, of course, you are
    now doing market surveys with camera-equipped drones.
     
    Tony Cooper, Mar 29, 2013
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    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Mar 29, 2013
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    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Mar 29, 2013
  14. The best way to reduce terrorism and crime is a shared
    database of every traffic camera, phone call, mobile phone
    position data, email, web site, financial transaction,
    plane tickets, subway ticket, GPS trace of every car, etc.
    Probably requiring multiple 4k-webcams in every room (including
    toilets and bedrooms) by law, so we can have total surveilance.
    Don't forget transparent blankets and clothing, so noone can
    easily hide a bomb or weapon.

    Privacy is completely overrated anyway.

    After all, using a printer to print out the description
    locally at the doctors office has lots of errors in
    transcription.

    Yep, assuming the doctor has no idea how to organize his
    practice properly, in which case the additional waiting times
    of half hours, hours or 2 hours vastly dominate the 60 seconds
    waiting for a prescription (worst case).


    (In fact I know a few doctors where when I come in on time I see
    the previous patient leave seconds after I enter. Which is ...
    impressive. And no, they're not hurrying patients. A skill
    which is vastly more complicated than managing to have the
    prescription printed out and ready to sign before the patient
    leaves the doctor's presence.)

    Which for some reason they can't get in any other way, not even
    when they scan the barcodes of the medications or otherwise
    track their stock.

    You'd think people would care that not everyone will get your
    medical records ... personal enemies, future bosses, business
    partners, the government --- or life insurance companies
    looking at all your relatives' medical histories.

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Mar 30, 2013
  15. Michael

    Eric Stevens Guest

    I actually didn't mean to send the above. I thought that rather than
    pontificating on the basis of what I thought I knew I would go and
    find out. I intended to dump that partially completed reply but
    instead I sent it out into the wide world. Oh well ...
    Yes. It's got a squamous something or other growing on the end of it.

    The situation is that over the several years that New Zealand has been
    selling its medical software into the US the local variety has
    acquired a US flavour.

    Computer generated prescriptions have a Rx at the beginning, although
    my local young Indian relieving pharmacist did not quite know what it
    meant.

    Each item prescribed is prefaced by 'Sig' which the relieving
    pharmacist thought meant 'deliver'.

    The instructions for use are prefaced by 'Mitte', the meaning of which
    was not really known by the pharmacist.

    When I mentioned the possible connection of Latin to these things he
    looked confused.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_abbreviations_used_in_medical_prescriptions
    gives some clues but also shows that there is not a standard
    international useage. In fact Google shows the same thing.

    It looks as though we are both wrong but you are much less wrong than
    I am.
     
    Eric Stevens, Mar 30, 2013
  16. Michael

    Savageduck Guest

    The unintended consequences of the pfingrr phahwlt.
    Good! It's not a terminal "kno".
    So the Mumbai Pharmaceutical College has let him down with an
    incomplete education.
    Agreed, there isn't a standard international usage, but there was a
    usage common to those nations which were influenced by their historic
    education connection to England, among those I include the USA and the
    nations of the British Commonwealth.
    ....and so the quest for all the answers continues.
     
    Savageduck, Mar 30, 2013
  17. Michael

    Eric Stevens Guest

    I thik he is lcaly trained. He has a peemmatly cnfuused exprrssin on
    his face which makes me suspect that he may be one of these people who
    knows everything and understands nothing.
     
    Eric Stevens, Mar 30, 2013
  18. Michael

    PeterN Guest

    One of my scripts was for a med that was not in the formulary. When I
    saw a much lower price in Canada, I complained to the US distributor,
    who sent me a year's supply of discount coupons, that equalized the
    price. With another med, Niaspan, my insurance company only approved it
    if purchased from their mail order house. I got that problem
    straightened out on my first renewal. BTW the co-pay from my local
    pharmacy was less than from the mail order house.
     
    PeterN, Apr 1, 2013
  19. Michael

    PeterN Guest

    I completely agree. Only an idiot would take what you say at fact value.


    What I do is not the point. that you statement was inaccurate, is.
    BTW I fill the vast majority of my meds at a local pharamacy, because I
    beleive in keeping the small guy in business. That doesn't mean I can't
    get some of my meds cheaper somewhere else.
     
    PeterN, Apr 1, 2013
  20. Michael

    PeterN Guest

    Had I stayed with the gubbmint, I would have a similar deal. I couodn't
    deal with the buracracy, and when a private company offered to double my
    pay, I jumped. I really never looked back, (well almost never.)
     
    PeterN, Apr 1, 2013
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