no recompression free AVCHD editor when I don't have....

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Nels Boomberg, Aug 19, 2011.

  1. ..... any index files. Since I've been recording AVCHD, I only save the core
    MTS file and no others. I tried the free VSO AVCHD Editor, but it says it
    must have the clip information to proceed, which I don't have. Are there
    lossless, no recompression AVCHD editors that will allow editing without the
    extra info? Thank you.
     
    Nels Boomberg, Aug 19, 2011
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  2. Nels Boomberg

    Frank Guest

    I'm not offering any guarantees, but have you tried MPEG Streamclip?

    Squared 5 - MPEG Streamclip video converter for Windows XP/Vista/7
    http://www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-win.html

    It's not a full-blown editor or NLE, but if it will open your files,
    you might find that it does what you need it to do, especially if all
    that's required is simple cuts-only editing.
     
    Frank, Aug 22, 2011
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  3. I appreciate the suggestion, but no go. I downloaded the program and when I
    tried to open the file, it said install Quicktime Alternative 1.81 first,
    which I did. Then it would open the file, but no visible video. I can't
    seem to find a solution anywhere when Googling troubleshooting this program.

    nels

     
    Nels Boomberg, Aug 22, 2011
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  4. Nels Boomberg

    Frank Guest

    no recompression free AVCHD editor when I don't
    have....>,

    Sorry to hear that. I wasn't certain that it would work, especially
    given the variation in AVCHD subformats including datarate, frame
    rate, progressive versus interlaced, non-compressed LPCM audio versus
    lossy compressed Dolby Digital audio, 2 channel stereo audio versus
    5.1 surround sound audio, and even stored frame size (anamorphically
    squeezed 1440 by 1080 versus full-raster 1920 by 1080) and MPEG-4
    video Profile and Level differences including [email protected], [email protected], and
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    As to MPEG Streamclip itself, it uses the Apple Quicktime multimedia
    subsystem for most of its operations (not Microsoft's
    DirectX/DirectShow), so having the genuine Apple Quicktime Player (or
    Quicktime Alternative) installed is a prerequisite to using the
    program.

    In fact, if using Apple's Quicktime, I usually recommend QuickTime Pro
    ($29.99) along with the MPEG-2 Playback Component ($19.99), although
    this isn't necessary for the MPEG-4 AVC / H.264 video used in the
    AVCHD format.

    QuickTime 7 Pro for Windows - Apple Store (U.S.)
    http://store.apple.com/us/product/D3381Z/A

    QuickTime MPEG-2 Playback Component for Windows - Apple Store (U.S.)
    http://store.apple.com/us/product/D2189Z/A

    Regards, good luck, and do let us know if you find a freeware program
    that meets your needs.

    By the way, and not sure if it helps, but most any freeware/open
    source application that does what you want will most likely utilize
    ffmpeg (libavcodec and libavformat).

     
    Frank, Aug 23, 2011
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  5. Nels Boomberg

    Scubajam Guest

    I'm not sure if this addresses your issue, but here goes. I have a
    Canon HF200 which takes mts files, which are usually accompanied by a
    ADP and HDP file. I frequently delete these and I found no use for
    them, even though they are very small files. The isolated files play
    fine on Windows Media Player, and I use Magix Video Pro X2.5 for
    editing. I can load the mts file easily into Magix and edit, then
    render to whatever. (I do get a pop-up window saying the mts file is
    1920x1080, and asking if I want to change to that format for editing
    instead of my default 1440x1080 for HD mpg2 tapes.) I don't have a
    mts choice for render export, but do have uncompressed avi, which
    creates large files, or mp4, among many others. I've loaded mts, mpg
    2 HDV, and HD 720p avi files from my Canon TX1, all on the same
    timeline with no intermediate rendering, and can edit in real time
    then render to whatever format I choose. While far from free, Magix
    has free trials for their editing programs. I think even their much
    lower priced consumer editing programs will handle files the same
    way. No add-ons or extra charges. Would only take a few minutes to
    download an editor from magix.com and try it. I have created mp4
    files which I believe are AVCHD, then created BluRay AVCHD discs on
    regular DVD-R media using a regular DVD burner, and they play fine in
    HD on my BluRay player without any loss that I can detect. Of course,
    they won't play on a regular DVD player. I create 720p wmv file for
    uploading to YouTube and other video sites. You could use the 30 day
    free trial period to load and render your isolated mts files to mp4,
    then edit with whatever program you want; then be sure in the future
    to keep the index files. Hope this helps.
    Jim McGauhey
    Washington State
     
    Scubajam, Aug 23, 2011
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  6. Nels Boomberg

    Frank Guest

    no recompression free AVCHD editor when I don't
    have....>,
    Nels, if you're still reading this thread, along with Jim's suggestion
    (which I second), you might also try the Avidemux freeware
    application.

    Product home page: http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/

    Alternate product home page: http://avidemux.berlios.de/

    Official home page: http://www.avidemux.org/

    Avidemux on SourceForge: http://avidemux.sourceforge.net/

    SVN (beta) builds can be downloaded from:
    http://avidemux.razorbyte.com.au/

    Like MPEG Streamclip, it's not a full-blown editor or NLE, but if it
    will open your files, and I suspect that it will, you might find that
    it does what you need it to do, especially if all that's required is
    simple cuts-only editing.
     
    Frank, Aug 25, 2011
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