Nokia uses other device to do video in cell phone ad

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by RichA, Sep 6, 2012.

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    RichA Guest

    RichA, Sep 6, 2012
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    Bruce Guest


    Do you remember when Sigma used images in its own adverts that had
    been taken with a Hasselblad? It was in film days.
     
    Bruce, Sep 6, 2012
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Doh! Not the first co. to get caught for sure.
     
    Alan Browne, Sep 6, 2012
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    RichA Guest

    Doesn't surprise me. A full-page ad would be pushing 35mm film.
     
    RichA, Sep 7, 2012
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    Alfred Molon Guest

    That happens all the time.
     
    Alfred Molon, Sep 7, 2012
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  6. Stupid own goal.

    So is claiming that it 8MP camera will better that the 12MP one in my N8.

    The Pureview appellation was originally for the 41MP f2.8 camera in their
    808. Actual images taken with this phone have been posted online (and are
    pretty good). In normal operation you can select 5 or 8MP and it reduces
    the noise by averaging adjacent pixels.

    Anyway the technical press have dis'ed the phone, the main story is this
    switch and the stock price is plummeting...
     
    R. Mark Clayton, Sep 7, 2012
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  7. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
    If it actually was good enough to do as they claimed and the ad had
    run with genuine vid from the cam, it would have been good promo.
    Nobody's going to believe them now, though.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Sep 7, 2012
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    George Kerby Guest

    You WOULD think that SOMEBODY in Post would have noticed that obvious
    blunder. Amazing how some companies are run by inept brass. Nokia, like RIM
    deserve their fate...
     
    George Kerby, Sep 7, 2012
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    Robert Coe Guest

    : On 9/7/12 12:15 PM, in article ,
    :
    : > On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 10:41:54 -0700 (PDT), RichA <>
    : > wrote:
    : >
    : >> Now, imagine if the DSLR sellers were forced to admit they used medium
    : >> format equipment or large format equipment for their camera ads?
    : >>
    : >> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19499879
    : >
    : > Stupid, stupid, stupid.
    : > If it actually was good enough to do as they claimed and the ad had
    : > run with genuine vid from the cam, it would have been good promo.
    : > Nobody's going to believe them now, though.
    :
    : You WOULD think that SOMEBODY in Post would have noticed that obvious
    : blunder. Amazing how some companies are run by inept brass. Nokia, like
    : RIM deserve their fate...

    Yeah, it could have been ineptitude, but the more obvious explanation is that
    Nokia's "brass" are as dishonest as their marketing lackeys. Which doesn't
    mean they aren't also stupid. Such conspicuous dishonesty often proves to be
    profoundly stupid.

    BTW, an apology is not what's due. What's due is the firing of everyone in the
    relevant chain of command, from the Marketing VP down to the cameraman. Anyone
    who had a hand in making or approving that ad. But I suspect that George is
    right: Nokia is now toast. Except in Finland, they will hardly be missed.

    Is that young British or American hotshot whom Nokia brought in to run the
    company a couple of years ago still around?

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Sep 8, 2012
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    George Kerby Guest

    The Cameraman?!?

    There you go again, picking on the poor, poor photographer...

    ;-)
     
    George Kerby, Sep 8, 2012
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    Bruce Guest


    I worry a little about the concept of a "British hotshot". Being a
    "hotshot" isn't something that we British generally indulge in,
    preferring to leave it to our cousins across the sea who appear
    infinitely more talented in that area of expertise.

    British expertise lies mostly in the areas of:

    1) Grumbling about the weather,
    2) Muttering "mustn't grumble" while grumbling,
    3) Self-deprecating humour that is rarely understood, and
    3) Brewing the world's best tea and serving it with cucumber
    sandwiches and small sweet baked cakes or crisp, thin, sweet cookies
    that are referred to as "biscuits", not to be confused with American
    biscuits which are deliciously different.
     
    Bruce, Sep 8, 2012
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    tony cooper Guest

    I'll miss Nokia. The Nokia mobiles that I have owned were the best
    available at the time. IMHO.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 8, 2012
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    Alan Browne Guest

    I had mostly Nokia's (including one that I left on the roof of my car
    and drove off. When I drove around a corner it flew to the pavement and
    exploded into 5 or so pieces. (2 blocks from where I drove off).

    Snapped the parts together and it worked fine.

    I had a SonyErikson that was a POS and a BlackBerry for work that was
    very good.

    My last cell before the iPhone was also a Nokia.
     
    Alan Browne, Sep 8, 2012
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    Savageduck Guest

    I still have my Nokia brick from 1989, squirreled away somewhere. That
    was on a pre-Verizon, GTE contract, and I have the same number on my
    current iPhone.
     
    Savageduck, Sep 8, 2012
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    Robert Coe Guest

    :
    : >Is that young British or American hotshot whom Nokia brought in to run the
    : >company a couple of years ago still around?
    :
    :
    : I worry a little about the concept of a "British hotshot". Being
    : a "hotshot" isn't something that we British generally indulge in,
    : preferring to leave it to our cousins across the sea who appear
    : infinitely more talented in that area of expertise.

    I finally Googled him. He's a Canadian-American hotshot. Born in Canada,
    citizen of both countries. Formerly employed at Microsoft.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Sep 8, 2012
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    Bruce Guest


    Thanks, Bob.
     
    Bruce, Sep 8, 2012
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    Trevor Guest

    And times change, while some companies fail to do so.

    Trevor.
     
    Trevor, Sep 9, 2012
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  18. You know that, because *you* do that all the time, or do you have
    some sort of proof?

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Sep 9, 2012
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  19. Actually, what they did is demonstrate the OIS capability.
    They never intended that as "this is the real camera's output".

    Hence, the only 'blunder' was the assumption that everyone would
    KNOW that this was only a synthetic demonstration of the OIS
    capability (just as the MTF diagrams of Canon lenses are synthetic
    (computer generated), not measured).

    Everybody *knows* that advertizing always is on the border of
    misleading e.g. by not mentioning everything, comparing against
    the worst possible competitor or circumstances, exaggeration of
    everything, and so on and so on. Everybody.
    So do you agree to commit Seppuku if you ever are wrong in
    anything? That would only be ethical, given that you expect the
    equivalent from others.

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Sep 9, 2012
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  20. Actually they did change, just not the right change. That ex-Microsoft
    "young hotshot" recently brought in to run Nokia decided that they
    obviously needed to go where the future action was going to be,
    i.e. Microsoft Windows for Mobiles. You get what you pay for.
    Pity. Their Symbian-based smarthphones were extremely good.
     
    Chris Malcolm, Sep 9, 2012
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