Not being allowed to take photos of your own kids ?

Discussion in 'Australia Photography' started by qt, Apr 19, 2005.

  1. qt

    qt Guest

    Hi,

    Lately I have seen on various internet forums more and more complaint
    about parents in Australia being banned from taking photos at
    sport/school events. If this is true, I think it's quite sad.
    Since when that we easy-going aussies have become scared-and-paranoiac
    aussies ?

    I live in Sydney and I have taken lots and lots of photos of my kids
    school/sport events and I _never_ had any trouble. What are your
    experiences ?

    qt.
     
    qt, Apr 19, 2005
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    paul the 2nd Guest

    Its personal & a matter of what people percieve as a danger. A mum running
    beside her daughter with a small 2 meg digi cam at a school sports event or
    an unknown man with a DSLR & 400mm L glass pointed out of a car window at a
    beach where 'little nippers' are competing. Take you pick and any level of
    civil duty/paranoia in between.

    I take shots of my kids & their friends & pass the shots on to the other
    kids parents only. I will not take photos of kids i dont know as i would not
    like people to do it to my kids.
     
    paul the 2nd, Apr 20, 2005
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    tived Guest

    Sorry Paul, but could we perhaps change the wording a bit on your story, so
    half the members here aren't included.

    How about suspect person, hidden in car with camera taking shots of little
    nippers on the beach vs. parent with capture device chasing the kid down the
    footy field.

    The thing about DSLR and I glass, doesn't make you are deviant person, only
    the envy of others....:)

    No punt on anyone here!!!

    I personally think this whole thing is getting way out of hand...I take
    thousands of photos at my daughters school at various events...pass on these
    to the teacher as a backup to their own image catalog. I know this is very
    much appreciated. And sure it makes for laughs when you sit there covered in
    long white lenses and cameras but Hey I am having a ball and so is every one
    else. I have yet to have anyone come up to me and ask me not to take
    photos...more often it is like this...will these be forsale!

    I would like to be able to come to my daughters events or any other event,
    and be able to capture the event on my chosen device without other people
    telling me to stop photographing of filming because... some fu*kH**d is
    getting off little nippers. The fact that some people do get off things like
    that really piss me off and my heart goes out to those who have ever been
    affected.

    My point is that there needs to be a balance not a ban!

    Henrik
     
    tived, Apr 20, 2005
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    tived Guest

    Paul, I totally agree with you there!

    Henrik
     
    tived, Apr 20, 2005
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    qt Guest

    I believe parents have all rights (and duties) to protect their
    children from any suspicious behaviour. I would respect any parent's
    protest or concern about me taking photos of their kids. I never had
    any problem with parents though because almost all parents know each
    other at school/sport events where I take photos of my kids.

    I am more concerned when the "authorities" decide they have the
    right to step in. few of stories that I heard/read of lately:

    - Some councils banned camera at the beaches.
    - Some schools banned parents from taking photos at school events.
    - Some kids sport clubs issued notices in writing to parents to
    ban them from taking photos at the fields.

    I never experienced this myself. Are these stories real or made up ?

    Cheers,
    qt.
     
    qt, Apr 20, 2005
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    Ben Thomas Guest

    I and many other parents have had no trouble taking photos of our babies during
    their swimming lesson at the local swim school, fortunately.

    I got the feeling my wife and I were the first to try it, because we think we
    got some strange looks on the first day. After that, many more people brought
    cameras.

    Ben Thomas
     
    Ben Thomas, Apr 20, 2005
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    warrigal Guest

    ....
    Just get permission from the school, many of them have the parents sign a
    release that the send home every 12 months. Check their policy.
    Some children that are under foster care (and changed name) because of abuse
    may have restrictions on photography. If your are going to make these images
    available to others you need to be sure none of these kids are "in frame"
    and put at risk.
     
    warrigal, Apr 21, 2005
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  8. I agree with a lot that has been said so far.

    Yes, parents and guardians have a responsibility to ensure they exercise a
    duty of care over their children and wherever protect them from potential
    exploitation.

    The whole issue of some councils banning cameras on beaches is just
    ridiculous. As a child my family spent many a summer day on the beach
    having fun and just enjoying life. We have literally thousands of
    photographs taken of us when we were kids (a lot of them whilst at the beach
    and school or club sporting events) which now constitute a permanent
    reminder of wonderful childhood memories. I just can't imagine a world
    without photos.

    Sickos who prey on youngsters were around then just as they are now :( The
    only difference is digital photography has may it easier for them to take
    inappropriate images that perhaps were only available to those who could
    process and print their own films without arousing suspicion at the local
    photo shop.

    As a community we are responsible for maintaining ethical standards. It's a
    pity there is a very small faction who can't seem to control their
    behaviour. I personally would not like to see a blanket ban on cameras on
    beaches or at sporting events just because there is paranoia running a muck
    in the community. If there is going to be legislation let's make it
    sensible and appropriate.

    Cheers,
    Alan
     
    Alan Rutlidge, Apr 21, 2005
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    Mick Guest


    This story here is short and to the point:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200501/s1282639.htm


    The council is (was?) trying to ban cameras on Bondi beach. I find
    this bit interesting:

    "He says the ban will not stop parents or tourists taking photos, but
    will prevent people preying on children or sunbaking women.

    Mr Newhouse says it is difficult to prove people are using cameras for
    obscene purposes, but a ban would increase lifeguard's power to ask
    certain people to leave."

    I am unsure how they can even consider implimenting such a law allows
    some people to break it while others can't.

    If perverts are a problem, leave them to the police to handle.

    Cheers,
    Mick.
     
    Mick, Apr 23, 2005
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    Phred Guest

    In the tourist ghetto of Cairns it seems there are so many white
    pointers lolling around the lawns along the Esplanade that they need
    shade tolerant grasses.
    Cheers, Phred.
     
    Phred, Apr 23, 2005
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    prep Guest

    I wonder if they have considered the high tide line. Most of the beach is
    below it, and thus not part of Bondi...

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