Not Ready for Prime Time?

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by mcp6453, Sep 18, 2004.

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    mcp6453 Guest

    The whole concept of using a PC for a DVR is escaping me. It seems that
    a selection of software is required to get a decent result. There are
    horror stories everywhere regarding video and audio getting out of sync.
    I (like a lot of people) do not understand the MANY video formats that
    are currently in use. Most frustrating of all, when I have tried to get
    help with such simple questions, I get pointed to videohelp.com, which
    is a wonderful site but is extremely overwhelming for a beginner.

    All I want to do is record shows off of TV onto my hard drive and then
    either 1) burn them to a DVD, or 2) transfer them to VHS. Is there a
    reasonably price card that will do so, without all of the many problems?
    Unlike audio, these consumer-level video capture and authoring products
    do not appear to be ready for prime time. I'd appreciate some help,
    clarification, and suggestions on a system that functions as described.
    However, please don't send me to videohelp.com unless you give me a
    static deep link. Every time I have been there on a suggestion (such as
    which DVD player to buy that does not have Macrovision -- Answer:
    Philips DVP642) I have been unable to locate the information suggested.

    Thanks!
     
    mcp6453, Sep 18, 2004
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    Glenn M Guest

    I use Hauppauge Win TV PVR USB2 with Sage TV....
    I have recorded over 100 episodes of "That '70 Show" without any
    problems... I used mpeg-vcr to edit out commercials and I use Vegas 5
    if I want to add in my own stuff...
    I use DVDA2 to create DVD's that have three show each...
    All DVD's play fine and are in sync... very easy to do and very
    reliable...quality of audio and video is excellent...
    Glenn M



    A GREAT DAY FOR FREEDOM...Pink Floyd
     
    Glenn M, Sep 18, 2004
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    Bariloche Guest

    There are infinite paths and alternatives to all this, but I shall
    recommend you 2 of them which are easy to use and understand, and with
    the best results:

    1) Get a simple and cheap TV card -an Avermedia for instance-, and
    capture as Huffyuv Avi. There should be no synchronization issues.
    Avoid any sophisticated card that captures as mpeg -you've been
    warned.

    2) Trim your stuff with VirtualDub.

    3) Encode to mpeg with Tmpgenc.

    4) Author with Tmpgenc DVDAuthor.

    Or

    1) Get a desktop DVD player/recorder

    2) Use DVD Decrypter in IFO mode (read it again: in IFO mode -you've
    been warned) to bring your recordings to the harddrive.

    3) Use mpeg-vcr or VideoReDo to trim your stuff.

    4) Author with Tmpgenc DVDAuthor.

    You can, of course, use other programs, but those above are well known
    for success and ease of use.
     
    Bariloche, Sep 19, 2004
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  4. Hauppage PVR-350, Sage TV. Just plug and play. You will never sit down
    and watch a TV show while it's actually on again. If you use a cheaper
    card you will have to learn a few things about tweaking to get the
    desired results.
     
    Chris Phillipo, Sep 20, 2004
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    Keith Clark Guest

    I don't know what problems you're talking about.

    I use BeyondTV as a Tivo replacement.

    The files are DVD compliant (after I created a custom profile which took all
    of 30 seconds).

    You can edit them with Womble Mpeg-VCR which is extremely fast (it takes me
    about 10 minutes to remove commercials and save a new file).

    Then you just use your DVD authoring program of choice (I use Ulead DVD
    Movie Factory because it was included in the box with my DVD burner). 15
    minutes or so later you have a DVD.

    So I don't know what you mean by a whole slew of software or problems. I
    find it pretty much brain dead simple and painless.
     
    Keith Clark, Sep 20, 2004
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    Don Noti Guest

    All you need is a TV device with a MPEG/MPEG2 encoder such as the
    Hauppauge PVR-350 (internal) or WinTV USB2 (external; note _USB2_). I
    have both and love them.

    If all you want to do is to record to harddrive, you don't need any
    fancy software. Both hauppauge models I mentioned come with a scheduler
    that allows you to manually schedule shows to record. It even hooks up
    to a free program guide service called TitanTV. But if you need
    advanced features like program name search, conflict management, etc.
    then spring around $70 for software like BeyondTV (which I run) or Sage.
    Another thing, they also come with a special edition of ULead
    MovieFactory for burning DVDs.

    I would not recommend getting a cheap TV card without MPEG encoder built
    in like the Hauppauge WinTV/PCI which I also have. The PVR-350 produces
    perfect recordings every time; the WinTV/PCI card using software
    encoding produces only mediocre quality recordings even with a fast
    processor.


    Have fun!

    /dn
     
    Don Noti, Sep 21, 2004
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    Keith Clark Guest

    To ***encode*** you only need a PVR-250, not the more expensive 350. The
    PVR-350 only makes sense if your PC isn't powerful enough to decode mpeg-2 on
    it's own for playback. If you can watch DVDs on your PC, you're wasting money
    on the 350,

    At least that's my opinion...
     
    Keith Clark, Sep 21, 2004
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