Novice help with Elan IIe and 420 speedlite

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by mel, Dec 16, 2003.

  1. mel

    mel Guest

    I have had my Elan for a while and now am experimenting with the 420
    flash; and have encountered a problem.
    I am shooting inside with the flash and I have the camera set to
    partial metering. My shots all seem very white/bright...over exposed?
    When I take the same outside everything is fine. Previous shots with
    built in flash are fine.
    What are some general rules with the partial, center weighted and eval
    modes with the 420 flash?
    How would you set it for fill flash or catch lights?
    mel, Dec 16, 2003
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  2. mel

    Rafal B. Guest

    How would you set it for fill flash or catch lights?
    Set flash compensation to -1EV. For details how to do it look at
    Your's maual.

    Rafal B., Dec 16, 2003
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  3. mel

    JIM Guest

    Not enough info to tell how you are taking the shot. If, for example, your
    primary subject is outside the metered area with a somewhat darker
    background, the camera is exposing to get the background right. If you are
    using a manual setting, without employing FEL, you might get the same

    Set custom function 8 on the camera to 1 (my preference). This links FEL
    (flash exposure lock) to the selected focusing point. Read up on using FEL
    in your manual, page 84 in mine. It is always a good idea to use this
    feature in any questionable lighting situation where you need to use flash.

    Not familiar with the 420; however, I think there should be a feature on the
    flash that sets it for fill, or something called high speed sync. (the older
    380ex had a simple switch) With my older 380 or current 550, I rarely need
    to go through the exercise surrounding the setting for fill. Once you learn
    how the camera/flash perform in various light it is much easier than setting
    some arbitrary -/+ flash comp to provide fill; besides, proper settings for
    fill depend on the ambient light and what the photog wants to do - think
    most call it experience;)

    Shoot'em up, natural light, flashlight, no light, Agfa, Fuji, Kodak and all
    the rest will love you for it!!

    JIM, Dec 16, 2003
  4. mel

    Dallas Guest

    mel said:
    Something is wrong. The E-TTL system is normally very accurate. Try using
    the FEL (*) button before taking the shot. This should help, but it would
    also help to know what mode you are shooting in. E-TTL works in various
    ways depending on the mode selected.

    For indoor photography I normally use Manual mode with a shutter speed of
    1/60 (or less) and an aperture wider than f/8. Using these settings (or
    combinations thereof) passes light control to the speedlite. If the green
    LED on the speedlite illuminates after taking the shot, your photo should
    be correctly exposed.
    Dallas, Dec 16, 2003
  5. mel

    mel Guest

    Thanks !
    I think what happened this time was it was self portrait of wife and
    pets and me (for x-mas card) and the focus was on the tree between is exposed quite well !
    Previously though my shots are all pretty bright with the 420. I will
    keep trying (and yes its a high speed sync setting)
    ....and thanks for pointing me to FEL, I will experiment. I was using
    'portrait' mode and realise now the fel will not work in the 'dummy'
    modes. I will experiment with the manual settings.
    Which meter mode do yous like for portraits? Like I said I am using
    Thanks again
    mel, Dec 17, 2003
  6. mel

    JIM Guest

    Mel, I liked partial especially for portraits w/my IIe. I used a 380EX and
    had flash exposure compensation set at +1/2 most of the time, as I felt that
    combo (Elan IIe w/380EX) *underexposed* by a small amount. If you are
    interested in improving your flash pics using your EOS system, you might
    want to read up at this site: -
    Also, look into acquiring something like the Lumiquest Pro Max system to
    compliment your flash - about $45 from B&H..........

    Couple recommendations for your portrait attempts: focus on the near eye -
    use FEL on that portion of the subject you want properly exposed (usually
    the facial area) - always be aware of your background - your end product,
    especially from prints, depends greatly on who is running the machine; i.e.,
    choose your processor carefully.............and good luck!

    Shoot'em up, with anything, Agfa, Fuji, Kodak and all the rest will love you
    for it!!

    JIM, Dec 18, 2003
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