O/T: Nibbling on an Apple

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Dudley Hanks, Aug 6, 2013.

  1. Dudley Hanks

    Dudley Hanks Guest

    Well, as much as I hate to admit it, I've taken a small step over
    to the dark side: I've picked up an iPad Mini...

    Like most Apple devices I've worked with, it seems this one does
    nothing extraordinarily well, but it is rather

    I purchased the device thinking that it would be a nice, portable
    audio recording / editing platform, giving me the ability to
    record interviews and then do a bit of clean up work regardless
    of my location. Ditto for video.

    Unfortunately, the memory limitations on these portables leaves
    them a bit lacking when it comes to working with large files, as
    does the hardware used.

    Obviously, I haven't had the opportunity to try each and every
    app out there, but I picked up a copy of "Garage Band" and
    another sound app ("Audio Memo") which seem to have a nice
    sampling of features.

    The major obstacle I've encountered is that, in spite of
    recording in 16-bit linear PCM format, actual sound quality is
    quite poor when compared to a comprably priced netbook / portable
    digital recorder, which is most likely do to the tiny microphone
    used in either the device or the Apple-built headset I

    The end result is that large files quickly fill the limited
    resources of the iPad without actually capturing a file that
    could be considered broadcast quality.

    Having said all that, I found to my rather great surprise that
    the Mini makes up for these short-comings by completely
    surpassing my expectations in the area of other

    For example, using "Siri," I am able to keep track of my
    schedule, take notes, and communicate via email with an ease I've
    not really dreamed possible...

    Even more surprising is that the provided browser, in conjunction
    with the voice over screen access system, makes it rather easy to
    browse the net.

    While it is more tricky to initially track down and click a link
    (due to the strickter reliance on page layout / design), once one
    gets a mental picture of the layout, one can navigate more
    efficiently because one doesn't have to "click through"
    (sometimes) hundreds of elements in order to get to the desired

    I also have to say that the little taps and swipes used to access
    info and move around are niceley intuitive and easy to

    All in all, I have to say that I'm pleased with the iPad Mini,
    not for what I purchased it for, but, rather, for the way it has
    proven to help me with every day tasks I've been struggling with
    for several decades.

    Nice work, Apple.

    Take Care,
    Dudley Hanks, Aug 6, 2013
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    Mayayana Guest

    | All in all, I have to say that I'm pleased with the iPad Mini,
    | not for what I purchased it for, but, rather, for the way it has
    | proven to help me with every day tasks I've been struggling with
    | for several decades.
    That seems to be the main point. I was out
    this past weekend looking at tablets with my
    ladyfriend, who thinks that perhaps she should
    buy one -- if for nothing else than to stay current.

    We looked at Apple and Windows; didn't get to
    Android. I was most impressed with the Acer that
    had full Win8 for $400. And I could augment it
    with bluetooth keyboard and/or mouse if required.
    Nice. But then I realized that I was thinking about
    how to use a small touch screen as a computer,
    when for $400 I could have a real computer. The
    strength of tablets is very small size and mobility,
    not extensive functionality.

    (The Apple clerk didn't even undersdtand when I
    asked whether there was a file system program to
    let me store and organize files. Apparently there is,
    but he couldn't see the point. He recommended
    Dropbox, as though it were an iPad service. :)

    I came away with the same sense I had going in:
    A tablet for $50 with a good screen for reading and
    a standard USB slot for memory sticks... and the
    native ability to read PDF/DOC/HTML/TXT... is something
    I would buy, so that I could read long articles from
    sites like Wired or Atlantic Monthly on the sofa. In
    the meantime, my schedule is not nearly so complex,
    nor my email so urgent, that I need a special, portable
    machine to handle them.

    Yet I could imagine that for people who, say, travel
    a lot and also like to read e-books, but don't actually
    do any computer-based work that might require a
    laptop, such a device might be ideal.

    On the other hand, it says something about the
    tablet market that they're selling "like hotcakes" while
    people are still pleasantly surprised that their tablet
    is useful for... something... anything. :)
    Mayayana, Aug 6, 2013
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    Whisky-dave Guest

    Oi that's not the dark side that's the bright side. :)

    I recommented a Zoom H4 to a friend that wanted to record audio including music and venues.
    Well it's not really for such things, I assume you mean storage space rather than memory.

    Yes microphones tend to be important when recoding sound.
    I'd recommend getting the Sony C800GPAC Tube Microphone ;-0

    You'd at least need a prodcast quality mic, should get one for 1/2 price of an ipad mini.

    I think they are great general purpose devices.
    Have you tried the imotion app (free). (think that's what it's called.) it's a intervalometer in that is takes a picture every so often and appends it to a movie file.

    I wonder if adobe will make it's CS CC availible for it ;-)

    A friend uses it for emails & txts and setting reminders it never quite works for me, I always have to change something.

    That's good, on my it keeps say please refrain from using profanities !
    bloody f'ing fing !

    That's good to hear as it's not a device that I'd automatically think could do this well.
    Whisky-dave, Aug 6, 2013
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    George Kerby Guest

    Contraire, Dudley, YOU are comin IN from the Dark Side of Micro$oft.

    Welcome to Reality, LOL!!!
    George Kerby, Aug 6, 2013
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    Mitch Bujard Guest

    You can use any standard mike, eventually through and adaptor, and get
    much better quality.

    Mitch Bujard, Aug 6, 2013
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    Guest Guest

    stop trying to pretend a tablet is a laptop. it's not a laptop.

    if you want a laptop, get a laptop.

    tablets are not laptops. they're tablets.

    not everyone needs a laptop. for many tasks, a laptop is overkill.
    that's why tablets are so popular. tablets do a bunch of tasks *really*
    well, much better than a laptop doing the same tasks.

    tablets don't do everything, nor do they have to. for those tasks, get
    a laptop.
    it doesn't meed a user accessible file system. there are apps that
    manage that *for* you.

    file systems are old school. they're eventually going away for nearly
    all users. system administrators or developers might need to get at
    individual files, but typical users do not.

    this is a concept lost on geeks because geeks want to get under the
    hood and screw with shit. normal people don't want to do that. they
    want *content* and computer can easily find that for them, *without*
    direct file access.
    there are $50 android tablets, but they're absolute junk.

    the kindle is slightly more at $70. maybe you should save up a few
    dollars and splurge.
    it's also for people who aren't planning on doing any of what you call
    computer based work when they travel. they want to leave that at home.

    someone might just want to check email, check news websites, play some
    games and read some ebooks, and that's *it*. they don't *need* anything
    more. whether it's for a weekend getaway or all the time, a tablet is
    ideal. a laptop is clunky.

    plus a tablet fits in a jacket pocket. a laptop doesn't, unless you
    have unusually large pockets. in fact, just yesterday i saw a young
    girl, probably about 9 or 10 years old, pull out an ipad mini from her
    purse while walking down the street.
    they're useful for a lot of stuff, which you'd see if you'd only shed
    your closed minded and condescending opinions. they're not for
    everyone, nor do they have to be, but they're quite useful.
    Guest, Aug 6, 2013
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    Savageduck Guest

    Why would you be such an ass as to switch the "Followup-To" headers to
    Savageduck, Aug 6, 2013
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    Savageduck Guest

    If you are going to use iPad or iPad Mini for audio there are several
    options to consider:
    < http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/mic.php >
    < http://www.alesis.com/iodock >
    < http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/cat-view.php?C=connectivity >
    < http://www.sonomawireworks.com/guitarjack/ >

    ....and there are more.
    That is where Dropbox and some other cloud solutions can be useful with
    the iPad memory limitations.
    Savageduck, Aug 6, 2013
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    Mitch Bujard Guest

    Because I ran tests about how Unison handles cross posting and forgot
    to remove it -- Thanks for spoting it.
    Mitch Bujard, Aug 6, 2013
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    Savageduck Guest

    That's OK!
    ....but how about making the change in your preferences as you still
    have the bogus followup set.
    Savageduck, Aug 6, 2013
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    Dudley Hanks Guest

    Still pretty skeptical, but, at least this experience with
    Apple is starting off much better than the last ...

    Take Care,
    Dudley Hanks, Aug 6, 2013
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    Eric Stevens Guest


    You couldn't find your way round my wife's iPad collection of of
    photographs unless there was a file system you could follow.
    Otherwise, god knows how many thousands of photographs all in one big
    Eric Stevens, Aug 7, 2013
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    Mine are in albums on my iPad. Is that not a file system?
    Tony Cooper, Aug 7, 2013
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    RichA Guest

    Apparently, that new Google unit is supposed to be very good, and inexpensive. But then so where the Nook products which bombed.
    RichA, Aug 7, 2013
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    Robert Coe Guest

    Well, as much as I hate to admit it, I've taken a small step over
    : to the dark side: I've picked up an iPad Mini...
    : Like most Apple devices I've worked with, it seems this one does
    : nothing extraordinarily well, but it is rather
    : versatile.
    : ...
    : All in all, I have to say that I'm pleased with the iPad Mini,
    : not for what I purchased it for, but, rather, for the way it has
    : proven to help me with every day tasks I've been struggling with
    : for several decades.
    : Nice work, Apple.

    Rich A will have a contract out on you soon enough, for that heresy. Recant
    now or beware.

    Robert Coe, Aug 7, 2013
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    Savageduck Guest

    Exactly! However, some of us here are curious as to when it was you got
    yourself an iPad?
    Savageduck, Aug 7, 2013
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    Guest Guest

    definitely not crap. it's progress and can't happen soon enough. file
    system access is primitive.
    then she's not taking advantage of all of its functionality.

    you don't need direct file system access to manage photos. far from it.
    the computer can do that *for* you.

    faces and places automatically groups photos by who is in them and
    where they were taken, or the photos can be put into one or more
    albums, something that can't be done with a filesystem.

    ios 7 also has another way to look at large numbers of photos and
    quickly figure out which ones are the ones you want to look at, but
    it's not out yet.
    Guest, Aug 7, 2013
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    Guest Guest

    no. it's a higher level concept.

    it's actually a database indexed by content, not a rigid file/folder
    structure. one photo can be in multiple albums, something not possible
    with a file system.

    it's the same for music. you can search music by various things, such
    as artist, album, genre or title. you can also create playlists with
    whatever you want in them. as with photos, one song can be in multiple
    playlists (or no playlists).

    playlists can also be smart and automatically update themselves based
    on rules you define, such as least recently played, rated 4 * or higher
    or music from the '60s or some other ruleset. if you play a song, it's
    automatically removed from least recently played and if you downrate it
    to 3* or less, it will be removed from the 4* or better playlist, all
    Guest, Aug 7, 2013
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    Month or so ago. I wanted a way to take photos with me to show some
    people. So far, I've never added a - whaddayacallit - an app? or used
    for anything else. Rather than let technology lead me by the nose, I
    add what I want when I want it.

    I did try to take a photograph with it earlier this evening. The
    grandsons had wrestling practice, so I tried to take a photo. I found
    it doesn't work too well with my finger over the lens. Finally got
    one image and went to the car and got my Fuji compact for the rest.

    Pop Warner football starts this week, so I'll be back to the Nikon.
    They got their practice kit.

    Tony Cooper, Aug 7, 2013
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    You have an odd idea of "not possible". I suppose what you've said
    means something to some people, but I put the same image in several
    folders by using "Copy to:".

    Don't bother to explain. I don't give a rat's ass if it's a copy of
    the same file or an index system accessing the same file. I guess
    that makes me a hater of higher level concepts. Actually, I prefer a
    copy since any changes affect the copy only.
    Tony Cooper, Aug 7, 2013
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