[O/T] No Wonder Kodak Went Broke ...

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Dudley Hanks, May 14, 2012.

  1. Dudley Hanks

    Whisky-dave Guest

    No it won't.
    You see it in courts everyday, the prosecution is biased against the
    defendant
    and teh defence biased against the prosection, by revealing both side
    hopefully the trugh will be found.

    You shouldn't reject their evidence because you say they are biased.
    Yes it is, provided it has a basis that can be proven.
    I've seen too much footage and reports of the holocaust for me not to
    believe it happened.
    I find nothing wrong in being biased towards those that say it
    happened.
     
    Whisky-dave, May 25, 2012
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  2. Dudley Hanks

    Dudley Hanks Guest


    So, you think it's funny when you display your ignorance? As, for instance,
    when you complain about all those "stupid people" who are "afraid" of things
    they don't understand? When, in fact, "stupid" people are the least likely
    to be afraid of such things, since they don't recognize a threat?

    You have a funny past-time, which, indeed, is humorous to others ... ;)
    As pointed out earlier, you adopted your opinions exactly the same way. You
    are just silly enough to claim otherwise, which is humorous to others ...;

    Besides, it is quite a bit easier for a blind person to read a summary
    article on the internet than it is to track down original articles complete
    with tons of tabular data and then convert that data to a tabular form.

    One of the most humorous things about you is that you don't realize how much
    others laugh at your bigotry ... kind of like a digital version of Archie
    Bunker ... ;)



    But, if you don't recognize that there is often more than one version of the
    truth, and that your version is often incorrect, see above about "stupid
    people" (and don't forget the seawall at Fudai), all your efforts are in
    vain ...

    Once again, people find it quite humorous. ... You are crusading to teach
    others things you clearly don't understand yourself, kind of like crossing
    Don Quixote with Jesus Christ wouldn't you say? ... ;)




    Discovering that there are differint versions of it is even more interesting
    ....
    How can discovering a new portion of anything be opposed to discovering old
    bits of it?


    Ahhh, so now they are "lazy," not "stupid"? See, I've taught you something!

    The teacher becomes the student, and the student the teacher ... :)
    Interesting how that works ... Kind of like when Jesse James tried to
    council Bill Clinton and ended up having an affair with one of his campaign
    workers? ... ;0

    This is too funny ... ROFLMAO
    Like, when it has been pointed out to them that they are wrong about those
    they complain about, yet they persist in their belief?

    ROFLMAO ... ;)

    How do you know that? What evidence do you have?

    Do share ... ROFLMAO ....
    So, it's ok for you to do it, but not for others? A hypocrit as well as a
    bigot ...;)

    ROFLMAO
    I paraphrased ... But, you misunderstood ... again ...

    ROFLMAO ....
    Where's your data? Documented observations?

    People would only be afraid of a nuclear device if it's in their
    neighbourhood, and there's a nuclear accident / incident roughly once every
    8 years, so I'd say the fear could be more justified for the nuclear hazard
    than it is for smoking related health problems ...

    Funny, your research seems to be off, again ...

    Kind of like when you weren't sure about "stupid" people being afraid of
    risks they don't recognize? ... ROFLMAO

    Good, I've got you asking questions
    .... Indeed, That's good ... ;)

    I know ... you like to make your own mistakes ...

    ROFLMAO ...
    You are too funny ...

    ROFLMAO ....
    I don't know? Why did you?
    How about the existance / behaviour of the God Particle?

    How would you know? You have been proved wrong more often than right?

    ROFLMAO ...
    Kind of like when you thought I was wrong about "stupid" people being afraid
    of risks they don't recognize?

    Kind of like when I said the Japanese people had reason to be concerned
    about Fukushima and you said nobody could have predicted the disaster?

    ROFLMAO ....

    Like, when you criticise "stupid" people for being afraid of risks they
    can't recognize? ... :)

    ROFLMAO ...
    One might say her genius is knowing who to hire?

    Like I said, there is more than one version of reality ...

    One might even say that we make our own reality; hence, what works for you
    in your world is of little importance to me in mine ...
     
    Dudley Hanks, May 25, 2012
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  3. Dudley Hanks

    Whisky-dave Guest

    It seems you're the one not thinkling for yourself.
    For instance how do you know no one died on three mile island ?
    Did you do a head count or did you lazily look at the report or news
    maybe even fox news
    to find out if anyone died.
    Regarding Fukushima have yuo actually been theri or are yuo opiniosn
    basewd on others reports ?
    Why don;t you gi9bve the dates and times you visited to enable you to
    gather your own opinions ?

    I admit I havent; been there so have to judge using others evidence,
    maybe you have a few pictures you took.


    Did you know that no one told the Olympic commity that there was once
    a nuclear reactor
    on the proposed site ? Do you think it just slipped someones mind ?

    It's virtually impossible in a lot of cases.
    I have used a gieger counter, but havent; the equipment or time to
    check on 3 mile island or Fukushima and I doubt
    they''d let me take a few measurements, which is what I;'d have to do.
    Of course2 you know exactly teh situatiohn from yuor own judgements
    from someone that;'s probbalty
    never been to either place hasn;t been near a nuclear reactor, maybe
    you should work for Fox news.
    (Of course the only thing I know about Fox news is from other slagging
    it off)

    How dod you get yuor information about 3 mile island and Fukushima ?
    Maybe the information was fed to you on a fork that's why you missed
    some vital bits.
     
    Whisky-dave, May 25, 2012
  4. Dudley Hanks

    Mxsmanic Guest

    I'm not the one that people find entertaining, or at least not in that way. My
    own entertainment comes more from the intellectual exercise, rather like
    playing chess.
    Stupid people tend to be very fearful. They just fear the wrong things.
    Who said anything about tabular data?
    There is only one truth.
    I'll let other people decide what I'm doing for themselves.
    There are no versions of reality.
    They can be either, or both.
    It's not about personalities, it's about facts and truth.

    Those who dwell on personalities are destined to be unhappy.
    It is self-evident to me. Of course, it is not self-evident to them.
    If they wish to have opinions without acting upon them, they can do what they
    wish. When they start saying that they want to legislate this or that because
    of those opinions, however, they must start defending them.
    Then I suggest you backquote, instead of paraphrasing. When you claim I said
    things that I didn't, naturally I tend to misunderstand.
    No. They were afraid of NMR scanners until they were renamed MRI scanners.
    About 50% of smokers die young of illnesses related to their smoking. Deaths
    from nuclear hazards are so rare that they are difficult to quantify. It is
    irrational to fear the latter and yet dismiss the former.
    Backquote me, and prove it.
    The existence of the Higgs boson has not been proved or disproved. Until one
    or the other comes to pass, it does not interest me.
    Because I see people who are wrong and like that.
    One need not be a genius to do that. It's more a matter of money than
    intelligence.
    Then why have you spent an entire post talking about me, instead of the topic
    at hand?
     
    Mxsmanic, May 25, 2012
  5. Dudley Hanks

    Mxsmanic Guest

    The advantages of breeder reactors are far better fuel economy and less
    long-term radioactive wastes. Unfortunately, emotional environmentalists and
    other fear-directed people have interfered with their development, along with
    market and other forces.
    No, personality. Some people are naturally calm and unemotional. They perform
    well in urgent and dangerous situations.
    Not to those who use these methods to manipulate large populations.
     
    Mxsmanic, May 25, 2012
  6. Dudley Hanks

    Mxsmanic Guest

    It is behavior that can be justified by logic--behavior that a computer could
    carry out.
    It's neither. It's a simple reflex.
    No, that is instinct.
    I don't have a rational reason for kissing, which is why I don't engage in it.
    They don't.
    My figures for the half-life of uranium isotopes are correct.
    Granite is radioactive. Is it dangerous?
     
    Mxsmanic, May 25, 2012
  7. Dudley Hanks

    Mxsmanic Guest

    There is no record of any fatalities, officially or unofficially.
    I looked at the head count.
    I don't have much in the way of opinions about Fukushima. None of the data
    I've seen supports any of the hysteria I've seen, however.
    What would taking measurements tell you?
    I looked it up on the Web.
    Information and opinions are two different things.
     
    Mxsmanic, May 25, 2012
  8. Dudley Hanks

    Whisky-dave Guest

    Are you sure about that, if what you say is true then arebn;t more
    thorium based reactors being built.
    other forces can be quite strong.
    Psychotic murders tend to be un emotainal it's part of their MO.
    No they do not, otherwise you'd have them in teh army rather than
    trained pros.
     
    Whisky-dave, May 28, 2012
  9. Dudley Hanks

    Whisky-dave Guest

    It has nothing to do with computers.
    But why have this reflex what is the purpose, cover yuotr eyes and you
    can;t see anything.
    You could fall off a cliff where's your logic there ?


    No it;'s the smell,.

    You mean you don;t or are yuo really an expert on how everyone thinks.

    It has a level of danger attched to it, which can then be evaluated.
     
    Whisky-dave, May 28, 2012
  10. Dudley Hanks

    Whisky-dave Guest

    Agreed.
    Theer's only one way to find out and that is from other people, unless
    yuo go there yourself.
    That you got from someone else you'd didn;t do your own count did you.
    Well you keep insisting you make up your own mind, but you only ever
    quote
    other people sources.
    It would give me the level or radiation present at that place at that
    time.
    I''d them have to look up stats on what damaged that particualar level
    can cause.

    So again from someone else, nothing wrong with that but saying your
    making up your own mind
    isn't what you are doing.

    Opinions should be based on information and if you have the same
    informatiin as someone else
    then should your opinion be different, it doesn;t matter but is the
    opinion correct maybe it doesn;t matter to you,
    but in my opinion 3 mile island or Fukushima aren;t good holiday
    destinations and teh reasons I say that is my opinion
    based around teh presented facts. If those facts are wrong then my
    opionon may be wrong.
     
    Whisky-dave, May 28, 2012
  11. Dudley Hanks

    Mxsmanic Guest

    Environmentalists are opposed to breeder reactors, and some people worry that
    they might make it easier to produce weapons-grade plutonium for bombs.
    I don't understand.
     
    Mxsmanic, May 28, 2012
  12. Dudley Hanks

    Mxsmanic Guest

    It prevents eye damage.
    We instinctively dislike certain smells and tastes.
    So does a nuclear plant.
     
    Mxsmanic, May 28, 2012
  13. Dudley Hanks

    Mxsmanic Guest

    Objective facts like these are easy to verify. Subjective statements like
    "this nuclear plant is terribly dangerous" are not.
    In many cases you'd have a hard time measuring the radiation to begin with.
    I can look up facts, which as I've said can be verified from multiple sources.
    I don't bother looking up opinions, for the most part, because they are so
    subjective. I look up the facts and then I form my own opinions.
    Very few people base their opinions on information, unfortunately. Most people
    adopt their opinions from someone else, without ever bothering to look at
    facts.
    I don't know of any power plant that would make a good holiday destination,
    although some might make for an interesting visit.
     
    Mxsmanic, May 28, 2012
  14. Dudley Hanks

    Whisky-dave Guest

    Thoriumn aren't fast breeder reactors.
    But they don;t.
    You;d understand uif you'd left the text in.
    You were trying to say that unimaotional peolpe judged things better
    than emotional people,
    well they don't.
    exactly.

    Unimotional people aren;t the peak of humanity like you seem to thnk.
    You wouldn't want unimotianl people to be in charge of anything.
     
    Whisky-dave, May 29, 2012
  15. Dudley Hanks

    Whisky-dave Guest

    flight or fight prevents eye damge yes.
    Trying to calmly evaluate such a situation is a flawed concept.
    But why ?
    Have you ever thought about it.
    Some are learned or are personal to individuals like wheich wione they
    prefer,
    but as just aboubt everyone is turned off by rotten flest why ius
    that
    flies, hyenias and other animals aren't turned off, in fact they find
    itn attractive .

    Only by those that really understand them, the rest just follow like
    sheep.
     
    Whisky-dave, May 29, 2012
  16. Dudley Hanks

    Whisky-dave Guest

    So as you say you take an 'objective' fact regurgitate it and claim it
    to be your opinion.
    Anyone can do that, most people do, it's hardly noteworthy.

    So how can you judge such a thing or even have a valid opinion that
    you expect others
    to repect you for.


    But do you understand those 'facts'.
    But you haven't, unless of course you can cite your objections
    for the location of the fuctashima reactor, any idiot today can say if
    shouldn't have
    been built where it was.
    Which appears to be what you have done.
    Depends on what sort of holiday, I know of a few peole that went to
    investigate
    the wild life that has grown up around Chernobyl disaster.
    If I were intrested in teh effects of radiation on mice, birds over
    time and how they
    mutant and survive I'd find that a good place to go.
     
    Whisky-dave, May 29, 2012
  17. Dudley Hanks

    Savageduck Guest

    You guys haven't been anywhere near a ripe dead body have you?
    A body that has been in water for about two weeks, or one that has been
    badly burned, or has been discovered by a neighbor after several days.
    That is a distinct odor you will never forget. Speak to people involved
    in body recovery operations and investigations. Specially trained
    cadaver dogs don't have too much trouble locating bodies and burial
    sites, even after several years.
     
    Savageduck, May 29, 2012
  18. Dudley Hanks

    Mxsmanic Guest

    No, I was talking about the reflex that turns you away from a bright light or
    causes you to squint or hide your eyes. It's not always fast enough, though,
    especially for things like lasers, microwave weapons, and solar eclipses.
    Nobody knows for sure, but it's probably wired in. A lot of poisons have a
    bitter taste, for example, and we instinctively dislike bitterness. There's
    probably a connection.
    And they panic like sheep, too.
     
    Mxsmanic, May 29, 2012
  19. Dudley Hanks

    PeterN Guest

    On 5/29/2012 11:19 AM, Savageduck wrote:

    I've had mini whiffs. Nor at all pleasant. Several years ago we had a
    horrible smell in the house, that just kept getting worse. Turned out my
    wife had accidentally dropped a chicken behind a cabinet. The odor
    permeated our house, and was so bad we moved to a motel for a few days.
     
    PeterN, May 30, 2012
  20. Dudley Hanks

    Whisky-dave Guest

    I ndon;t need to In heard the details froim scintsits who study these
    things.
    IIRC it was This Week In scince that reported on the chemicals/odour
    produced by rotting flesh
    which is caused by a particlualr bacteria which will kill hiumans in
    even small quantities
    so were' very reluctant to put anaything that5 smells like that
    anywhere near our noses and mouth,
    because it's so toxic.
    That happened near me recently, soemnone died and after 3 days he was
    discovered,
    I don;t know the details but I have taken over his cat....
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/whiskydave
    Photography plug just for a change..
    I think they were all taken with my new ipad,

    You can train animals to do certain things, you can train bees far
    quicker than docks too
    only takes them a few minuites to learn to detect explosives it takes
    dogs weeks of training doesn;t it ?
    I've even heard you can trian humans, but not usually with instincts
    or our senses.
    Hukans use technology for earthquake warnings I heard all the large
    animals leave earthquake zones before
    as they can detect the quakes.
     
    Whisky-dave, May 30, 2012
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