Official Nikon D3 sample photos

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Paul Furman, Sep 12, 2007.

  1. Paul Furman

    ASAAR Guest

    And all along I thought that you were called "Pop" because of your
    age . . . :)
     
    ASAAR, Sep 18, 2007
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  2. Paul Furman

    crownfield Guest

    -> Lieca M8s also failed. None of the Nikons, Pentaxes,
    -> Hasselblads, or Mamiyas failed.
    -
    -let's report _all_ the facts then. 85% of cameras on the trip were canons. there
    -were only 5 nikons. i.e. there were less nikons _total_ than failed canons :)))

    come on now. be honest.

    how many nikons failed? Z E R O ??
    how many blads failed? Z E R O ??

    how many canons failed: 11?


    now which one would I take? hmmm. how to decide?

    nikons did not fail,
    blads did not fail.
    canons failed.

    now which one would I take? hmmm. how to decide?

    -once again, no matter how nikon shills try to control the damage, the
    -immesuarable embarrasment to nikon cannot really be corrected: nikons "didn't
    -fail" simply because nobody used nikons.

    ERROR: logic failure alert-


    officer responds to the apt after a call:

    officer, look at that pervert. he is nude, and flagrantly exhibiting
    himself in publike.

    Ok maam, but I do not see him.

    well officer, just go over in the corner,
    climb up on the chair, get up onto the counter,
    stand up, and look out that upper window...


    are you in cheap advertising,
    or a tv executive perhaps?


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    crownfield, Sep 18, 2007
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  3. The problem is on your end since you aren't using Outlook Express, the
    world's best newsreader.





    Rita
     
    Rita Ä Berkowitz, Sep 18, 2007
    #63
  4. You're right! The stupid bastards at Canon even got the direction for
    taking lenses on and off wrong. It's totally opposite of Nikon's, which is
    the industry standard.






    Rita
     
    Rita Ä Berkowitz, Sep 18, 2007
    #64
  5. ha ha ha... sorry, my man, i understand that you are a devoted russian zenit fan
    (it didn't fail either, you know. lol :) but i prefer to stick with japanese
    camera bodies.
     
    Korben Dallas, Sep 18, 2007
    #65
  6. you forgot nikon speedlites. you just said that canon owners buy them in copious
    amounts. lol. it would be interesting to try the stuff you are smoking, rita :)
     
    Korben Dallas, Sep 18, 2007
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  7. Paul Furman

    crownfield Guest

    -> -let's report _all_ the facts then. 85% of cameras on the trip were canons. there
    -> -were only 5 nikons. i.e. there were less nikons _total_ than failed canons :)))
    ->
    -> come on now. be honest.
    ->
    -> how many nikons failed? Z E R O ??
    -> how many blads failed? Z E R O ??
    ->
    -> how many canons failed: 11?
    ->
    ->
    -> now which one would I take? hmmm. how to decide?
    -> ...
    -
    -ha ha ha... sorry, my man, i understand that you are a devoted russian zenit fan
    -(it didn't fail either, you know. lol :) but i prefer to stick with japanese
    -camera bodies.

    ha ha ha there little guy.
    no zenits.

    just nikons (3 _+ S2)
    Hasselblad (1)
    Toyo (4x5)



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    crownfield, Sep 19, 2007
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    Rita
     
    Rita Ä Berkowitz, Sep 19, 2007
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  9. Paul Furman

    Toby Guest

    How do you estimate the failure rate for Nikons when none failed?

    Please read and respond to Floyd Davidson's post directly above mine.

    Toby

     
    Toby, Sep 19, 2007
    #69
  10. Paul Furman

    Toby Guest

    Do you have sources?

    If you were a professional, you would know that the name of the game is "get
    the shot". Nothing else really matters. If you can get the shot with Canon
    you go Canon. If it is Nikon that gets the shot you go Nikon.

    It's statistics, man. You have a large enough sample here, don't you?
    To coin a phrase: "Now it's Nikon".

    Actually it doesn't matter to me. I like both Canon and Nikon, I just happen
    to have more Nikon glass.

    Toby
     
    Toby, Sep 19, 2007
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  11. Paul Furman

    Toby Guest

    That day seems far off, so the world is safe for a while.

    Toby
     
    Toby, Sep 19, 2007
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  12. Paul Furman

    Pboud Guest

    I'm sorry, but you've used logic and rational thought in the Canon/Nikon
    holy war...

    An emergency response team has been dispatched to your location for
    immediate re-programming.

    Have a nice day.
     
    Pboud, Sep 19, 2007
    #72
  13. In that case, I'll be hiring out to Al Quaeda, the "Real
    IRA", the ETA and various and sundry "palestinian" groups. Remote Human
    Detonation should be a very highly sought after and well paid
    skill.

    Of course, should No Such Agency or the Chinese army outbid them ...
    I'll just give them a printout of that posting to read and go
    wash my hands for a moment.

    BTW, you'd better hire the CIA to abduct me and have me tortured in
    Afghanistan or Egypt or similar places (cannot dirty their hands
    themselves, can they), that's apparently the standard method of
    dealing with such people.

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Sep 21, 2007
    #73
  14. Sure. Look them up yourself --- you do know them, otherwise
    you wouldn't be quoting 6 months in one country as a 'turning
    point'.
    Which means that the ingrained finger reflexes and well-known
    layouts are extremely important. Try driving with your arms
    crossed: right hand to the left of the wheel and vice versa.
    You'll soon find out that even though you _know_ better, you need
    to retrain your reflexes.

    And having the right reflexes and knowing your machine inside
    out are two very important ingredients in a lot of venues to get
    the shot. Unless you only do still life.
    And if you know Canon, stay Canon, for the very same reason,
    Sure, one country out of ... well, how many should we consider?

    BTW, by the same standards, Japanese outnumber everyone else in
    the world (in Japan, in the last six months, but let's extrapolate
    that to everywhere). I only trust statistics I faked myself.
    Even Nikon is allowed a year every quarter century, in one
    country.

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Sep 21, 2007
    #74
  15. Industry standards are a fine thing, there are so many of them
    to choose from.

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Sep 21, 2007
    #75
  16. Easy. Choose 1950's Polariod cameras. They did not fail, they were
    never even in danger failing, since they were not even there.
    That's a *more* than 100% success, they were provably the
    safest cameras oon the trip!

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Sep 21, 2007
    #76
  17. Easy.
    First I point out that due to the very low numbers of Nikons there,
    so the data point isn't really worth it, though some really try
    to make that read "0% failure rate --- for all Nikons everywhere
    in the world".

    Second, I assume that, worst case, the next Nikon that might have
    been brought in, wopuld have failed or even that one more of the
    Nikons would have failed. That gives me an idea above the lower
    bound of a Nikon failure rate, especially with so low a number
    of Nikon cameras.

    Third, I say: "That 5 Nikons did not fail only proves that the
    failure rate is _probably_ not worse than 1:5 or 1:6. Probably
    because of statistical variations. That's all you can prove."


    If you do the same with Canon, i.e. if you assume one Canon more
    failed, you see that the percentages for Canon are quite stable
    compared to roughly 0-20% for Nikon, so Canon numbers are quite
    more representative.

    Try again with just one Camera --- it failing or not failing makes
    the reliability jump between 0% and 100%, and thus not something
    you can get a lot of information from

    Sorry, you didn't tell me which newsreader sorting you use.
    I use a threaded view based on date and adaptive scoring, may
    I assume you use a reverse time sorted one?

    FDs post didn't show up here, maybe he's annoyed me too much
    for the moment (adaptive scoring) or maybe the article just
    has not arrived yet.

    -Wolfgang

    PS: Please do not top post, this is not jeopardy.
    Trim down what you can without changing meanings and write
    your comments below each relevant part.
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Sep 21, 2007
    #77
  18. It shows the crap the very same way, and you know it, which
    makes that a really stupid remark even for you.

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Sep 21, 2007
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  19. Paul Furman

    THO Guest

    Yeah, it is pretty funny that he claims some sort of statistical basis
    for pulling a non-existent Nikon failure rate out of thin area when no
    Nikons failed on that trip.

    Has the science of statistics changed recently so that now it is
    acceptable to insert made-up numbers into calculations? :)

     
    THO, Sep 22, 2007
    #79
  20. I can only answer by quoting:
    | On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament!], `Pray,
    | Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right
    | answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of
    | confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. --Charles Babbage

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Sep 24, 2007
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