Oh God! WHY did they shrink the D80 from D70 dimensions??!

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by RichA, Sep 24, 2006.

  1. RichA

    RichA Guest

    The size of a D50??? Why? Do they anticipate more women than men
    buying it?
    Why on EARTH would anyone want it that small? This is classed as an
    above entry level camera so what is with with the P&S size reasoning?
    Big mistake, IMO. The D70 is a MUCH
    more handle-friendly camera than the D50.

    from dpreview:

    Body & Design

    Sticking with what people find familiar (and works) the D80 pretty much
    follows the design of the D70/D70s, albeit with a few tweaks, mostly
    softening of lines, with a more rounded top and molding around the
    shutter release. Dimensionally however the D80 is quite a bit smaller,
    virtually the same size as the D50.
    RichA, Sep 24, 2006
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  2. RichA

    G.T. Guest

    Oh God! WHY does RichA care??! He'll never own a DSLR!!!

    G.T., Sep 24, 2006
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  3. One of the two points about the D80 that have prevented me rushing out to
    'upgrade' from the D70, is the size reduction - I have big hands.

    Secondly, why adopt sd cards for storage, compact flash is easier to handle
    and more durable.
    Nigel Cummings, Sep 24, 2006
  4. Were I buying a DSLR, I would probably look for a more compact size.
    After all, the sensor is only 2/3 the size of a 35mm frame, so it would
    nice if everything else were 2/3 the size (where possible). Have you
    actually tried holding a D80?
    What evidence is there that CF is more durable, especially if you include
    the fragile multi-pin connector? I suspect that SD now provides
    compatibility with a greater number and range of devices. In any case,
    you would be buying new memory for your new camera, wouldn't you, and
    selling off the old?

    David J Taylor, Sep 24, 2006
  5. I don't see how CF is any more durable than SD. Isn't there a controller of
    some type in a CF card? An SD is a simple flash memory card, seems to be
    very durable to me. I've had no problems with either.
    Peter A. Stavrakoglou, Sep 24, 2006
  6. RichA

    DoN. Nichols Guest

    [ ... ]
    The CF card (with its female connector) should well be more
    durable. What may not be so is the male connector in the camera, if
    someone is not sufficiently careful in inserting it. There are
    sufficient clues as to the proper orientation so it *should* not be a
    problem to anyone who uses it and pays *any* attention to the markings
    adjacent to the camera's slot (at least based on the Nikon D70) and the
    tactile cues on the CF card itself.

    The *only* time that I have put a CF card in wrong was when I
    was experimenting to see what was possible. You can't push it in all
    the way with the card wrong side to -- the guides prevent that. You
    can't push it in at all with the connector edge out. You *can* push it
    too far with a side edge first -- but that feels so wrong that I find it
    difficult to imagine *anyone* pushing it in far enough to damage the
    pins in the camera's socket.
    "Devices"? You mean cameras -- or card readers? I find the CF
    easier to deal with on my older Sun computers, which do not offer USB
    interfaces at all. The newer ones do offer them, but I am not using one
    as my current deskside computer at present.
    Well ... this would rather *force* him into buying new memory
    for the D80, even if he had a D70 and wished to continue to use it as

    When I finally get a D200, I do not expect to sell my D70, nor
    do I expect to get rid of my current CF cards. The 4GB one will
    certainly work well in the D200, and the 1GB ones will be good for short
    shoots at least. (As for the ancient CF cards which I have, 48 MB,
    16MB, and even one 8MB -- they would hardly sell for enough to make them
    worth selling -- and I do use them occasionally to move files between
    two computers one of which doesn't happen to be currently networked.
    They hold a lot more than a floppy, and I already have them, so why get
    rid of them?

    And the SD cards seem to be too small and too light -- easy for
    one to blow away if set down outdoors, or to have it slip out of my
    fingers and perhaps become lost in leaves and other ground debris.

    DoN. Nichols, Sep 24, 2006
  7. DoN. Nichols wrote:
    I must confess that, while this has never happened to me, I can see that
    the cards may be too small for some people. At least with the Nikon range
    you now have a choice.

    David J Taylor, Sep 24, 2006
  8. RichA

    Doug Robbins Guest

    Why are you asking GOD? Did He reply?
    Doug Robbins, Sep 24, 2006
  9. RichA

    Sheldon Guest

    I saw a test of different cards, and CF seems to win out when it comes to
    durability. Everything from heat to cold to running the things through a
    washing machine to driving a car over them. I will admit the pins look a
    little fragile, but I've never heard of anyone having a problem with them.

    I suspect the same thing you do, that they are trying to make SD the new
    standard. Plus, it gives the designers more room inside the camera to
    either add stuff or make the camera smaller.
    Sheldon, Sep 25, 2006
  10. RichA

    Greg \_\ Guest

    Another bigger issue is the the change rom CF to sd (Suc D) cards
    fumble those with big man fingers !!!! Won't be buying the D80.
    Greg \_\, Sep 27, 2006
  11. RichA

    Greg \_\ Guest

    I bought my cell for thge same reason bigger buttons :)
    Greg \_\, Sep 27, 2006
  12. RichA

    Greg \_\ Guest

    "David J Taylor"
    If I was a maker, I would obviate the need for eternal removable cards
    and provide a connection like FW800 or USB 2 (perhaps faster) that
    allows very fast connection to the computer.
    Greg \_\, Sep 27, 2006
  13. RichA

    Greg \_\ Guest

    Thickness, loose ability.
    Greg \_\, Sep 27, 2006
  14. RichA

    Greg \_\ Guest

    Drunken idiots should not be handling cameras ;)
    Greg \_\, Sep 27, 2006
  15. RichA

    Greg \_\ Guest

    Being curious, why are you associating GOD with a human attribute such
    as gender?

    Second question: if GOD answered were you able the hear?
    Greg \_\, Sep 27, 2006
  16. RichA

    Greg \_\ Guest

    Look at them: less costly, cheaper crap.
    Greg \_\, Sep 27, 2006
  17. In the English language, he is also the impersonal pronoun. It's
    properly capitalized when referring to God, which shouldn't be all caps.
    John McWilliams, Sep 27, 2006
  18. Greg "_" wrote:
    I wouldn't buy a camera where I couldn't change cards in the field.

    David J Taylor, Sep 27, 2006
  19. Some say God is everywhere. That would include Usenet.

    Espen Stranger Seland, Sep 27, 2006
  20. So, you have one of those long lasting "eternal" cards? Does its
    warranty apply to successors and heirs?
    John McWilliams, Sep 27, 2006
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