Old slide film types

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Jean, Nov 20, 2003.

  1. Jean

    Jean Guest

    I started scanning some really old slides that date back to the mid '60s.
    When I took the pictures I did make shorthand notes as to the film type.
    The notations are KCE-II and KCR-X.

    At this point, I'm wondering which film type best describes the slides:
    Kodachrome or "positive" (my only choices for the NikonScan software). Are
    these true Kodachromes with the rem-jet backing or something else?


    Thanks,

    Jean
     
    Jean, Nov 20, 2003
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    Slingblade Guest


    If you need to know to set your scanner, then just set it to the
    "positive" setting. It probably has a setting for positives and
    negatives. Negatives are of course print film.
     
    Slingblade, Nov 20, 2003
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    Leon Mlakar Guest

    I think he needs to differentiate between old Kodachromes and E-6. Those
    scan differently.
     
    Leon Mlakar, Nov 20, 2003
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  4. Jean

    Leon Mlakar Guest

    NikonScan help mentions PKR, PKM and PKL as being Kodachrome film. No
    mention of KCE and KCR (but that not necessary excludes them, though).

    You can always take one slide and try it to scan at both settings and see
    which is better.
     
    Leon Mlakar, Nov 20, 2003
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    Tony Spadaro Guest

    Set for "Kodachrome", as both of those film types were Kodachromes. You
    would use "Positive" for any slide other than Kodachrome. If you scan
    Kodachrome as "Positive" you will get far too blue a result.
     
    Tony Spadaro, Nov 20, 2003
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    Ron Andrews Guest

    These are Kodachrome II (25 speed) and Kodachrome X (64 speed) designed
    for the K-12 process. Although the dyes are not the same as K-14 films
    (Kodachrome 25, 64, 200), the Kodachrome setting is the closest one. On my
    Minolta scanner, they work fine.
     
    Ron Andrews, Nov 21, 2003
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  7. Jean

    Jean Guest

    | Set for "Kodachrome", as both of those film types were Kodachromes. You
    | would use "Positive" for any slide other than Kodachrome. If you scan
    | Kodachrome as "Positive" you will get far too blue a result.
    |
    | --

    I tried scanning a couple of particularly difficult slides both ways and
    couldn't see any major differences in the output quality. (That surprised
    me - whenever I've inadvertently scanned a KK using the "positve" setting
    it has usually turned out terribly. Ditto when scanning an E6 slide using
    the KK setting.) That's why I wondered if the types I mentioned were the
    Kodachrome that we now know, love and which Nikon accommodated in their
    scanning software.

    Jean
     
    Jean, Nov 21, 2003
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    Jean Guest

    | These are Kodachrome II (25 speed) and Kodachrome X (64 speed)
    designed
    | for the K-12 process. Although the dyes are not the same as K-14 films
    | (Kodachrome 25, 64, 200), the Kodachrome setting is the closest one. On
    my
    | Minolta scanner, they work fine.
    |
    | --

    Thanks for the info - there must be enough of a difference between the KK
    dyes that my scanning software isn't exactly compensating for the old KK.
    (I did try scanning a couple of slides using both settings and none of the
    results were satisfactory.)

    Does Vuescan have a setting for the K-12 process films?


    Jean
     
    Jean, Nov 21, 2003
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    Tony Spadaro Guest

    Kodachrome has changed considerably since those emulsions. I too had old
    Kodachromes to scan and found that each slide I scanned took different
    adjustments. I blame that on the fact that I shot little Kodachrome so very
    few of my surviving slides were from the same roll - or even the same era.
    I suspect Nikon has taken a general approach to them, but they may have
    tailored the setting to one particular Kodachrome emulsion.
     
    Tony Spadaro, Nov 21, 2003
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    Slingblade Guest

    Well, then I'd imagine use the "Kodachrome" setting for Kodachrome
    slides and "positive" for E-6.
     
    Slingblade, Nov 21, 2003
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    Leon Mlakar Guest

    Indeed :)
     
    Leon Mlakar, Nov 21, 2003
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    EDGY01 Guest

    << I'm wondering which film type best describes the slides:
    Kodachrome or "positive" (my only choices for the NikonScan software).

    I use the Nikon Super Coolscan 8000ED and unfortunately (or fotunately) most of
    my work has been in Kodachrome over the decades. I have to use KODACHROME
    settings for that stuff while POSITIVE is best for my Fujichrome stuff. You
    can experiment with the various settings but I think the Digital ICE will
    function best when it is set to match the emulsion.

    Dan
     
    EDGY01, Dec 9, 2003
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