Older high quality, or newer low quality?

Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by Lansworth, Jun 27, 2005.

  1. Lansworth

    Lansworth Guest

    Hey, I had a question about quality between different eras of video
    technology. I was thinking, if you had a really hight quality VHS
    camera from fifteen years ago, and a current consumer digital camera
    (say a Sony Digital 8 for example) model, which would come out with
    better video quality when captured into a computer using firewire? I'm
    asking because I'm considering buying a Panasonic AG-180 on eBay.
    Thanks!
     
    Lansworth, Jun 27, 2005
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  2. "Lansworth" wrote ...
    Even a low-end modern DV camcorder will most likely produce a
    better image on tape than an old "VHS high-quality" camcorder.

    Many of us believe that "VHS high-quality" is an oxymoron like
    "jumbo-shrimp" or "military-intelligence".

    Note that Panasonic model was not considered "high-quality" even
    back in its day. Those old things had horrid low-light performance.
    And the one on eBay is "falling apart" and likely not worth the cost
    of shipping.
     
    Richard Crowley, Jun 27, 2005
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  3. Lansworth

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    Waiving the right to remain silent, "Lansworth"
    The older VHS unit won't do Firewire, so that comparison cannot be
    made.

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    Larry J., Jun 28, 2005
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  4. Lansworth

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    Waiving the right to remain silent, "Richard Crowley" <rcrowley7
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    I've got a lot of old SVHS camcorder vacation footage that I'd put up
    against any newer low-end DV stuff.

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    Larry J., Jun 28, 2005
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  5. From my own experience with my first DV camcorder, I found that in indoor
    lighting, the VHS footage shot by my 1980s-vintage RCA camcorder looked
    better than the Canon ZR10 digital footage. In outdoor sunlit conditions,
    the ZR10 wins. We eventually returned the ZR10 and bought a Sony TRV900,
    which surpassed our expectations nicely. I still have that camera, even
    though I own two VX2000s. I recently used the TRV900 in a controlled
    application, for a face closeup cutaway shot in an orchestral recording I
    made recently.

    Samples in Windows Media 9 (pro audio CODEC required) of some 3-camera
    shoots I did of a symphony orchestra. Sound is Surround 5.1 channels.

    www.tinyurl.com/dws47

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    Mark & Mary Ann Weiss, Jun 28, 2005
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  6. Lansworth

    none Guest

    A word of warning about analog video gear on e-bay.
    Much of it is falling apart or down right broke.
    Be certain you only buy the later analog gear and that it's stated as
    being in perfect working order.
    Also make sure the seller has at LEAST a 99% satifaction rating. If
    not check out the buyer's who weren't happy, talk to them and get the
    straight dope.

    The AG-180 wasn't the best that came out of that era by far.
    Look for a 3chip late model camera with S-VHS deck, prefferably a
    dockable unit. And make sure it has full outputs from the head in case
    you opt to go with a digital deck later.
    Don't settle for any camera that has less than 500 lines resolution.
    Stay away from ALL tube cameras as they are always worn out/defective.

    You could also get a standalone 3chip camera(or a dockable head unit.)
    and a minidv recorder or camera that'll allow for analog input and run
    a patch cable to get the best of both.

    Yuo can get quality out of S-VHS and a good camera, most can't tell
    the difference and someof the higher end broadcast gear of the very
    late 80's and early 90's will run circles around the low end mini DV
    stuff.( i still have a DXC9000 and a couple of svhs decks that I use
    from time ot time to do color critical work that my smaller chip
    minidv's can't do.)
    You will also need to get a decent analog capture card, lots to be
    had, as you can't firewire analog.
     
    none, Jun 28, 2005
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