Olympus E-3 officially announced

Discussion in 'Olympus' started by Tony Polson, Oct 17, 2007.

  1. Tony Polson

    Tony Polson Guest

    Possibly the best news is the price: US $1699.00

    But it has only 10.1 MP. The E-1 was quickly left behind by top
    models from other brands because of its entry-level 5.1 MP.

    With Nikon and Sony already announcing 12 MP models, and 10 MP being
    considered entry level at this time, it looks likely that the same
    will happen to the E-3. Low noise, fast, accurate AF and high frame
    rates are all available elsewhere.

    Tony Polson, Oct 17, 2007
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    RichA Guest

    I don't buy that. The new Nikon D3 is only 12 meg, the Canon 1DsMkIII
    is 21 meg, but it is unlikely the Nikon won't find buyers in the pro
    Besides, the diff between 10 and 12 meg is so fractional, images will
    more likely be effected more by lens choice, etc.
    RichA, Oct 17, 2007
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    JR Guest

    But the 4/3 sensor is smaller than the APS sensor, so noise is an
    issue....the D3 is an ULTRA LOW noise camera with a FF sensor. Big
    difference between the E-3 and D3....

    JR, Oct 17, 2007
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    RichA Guest

    The Olympus camera though isn't being perceived by the buyers as a pro
    camera, only an enthusiast camera. As such it falls in with the Nikon
    D300, Canon 40D and perhaps the Sony A700. There, it can compete,
    given it's feature set.
    RichA, Oct 17, 2007
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    frederick Guest

    It's 3x the price too.
    The E3 is at a price where large numbers of dslrs are sold.
    RichA posted some months ago an Olympus discussion paper on
    this E3 where they suggested areas that Canon (30d) and
    Nikon (D200) owners would like "improvements" implemented,
    and that the E3 would offer these improvements.
    Unfortunately by the time this E3 is announced, the 30d and
    D200 have been superseded by the 40d and soon the D300, both
    with live-view, the D300 with higher frame rates and 100%
    viewfinder etc.
    Life is tough if you're not at the top. The E3 is probably
    okay - the price seems okay, even if the price of fast Zuiko
    glass sends a shiver up my spine.
    But I bet they don't sell many.
    frederick, Oct 17, 2007
  6. I can only assume from that, that you are using the Hasselblad H3D-39
    with the 39 Megapixel back, because Megapixels & size trump everything,
    right? If you're not, then obviously there is a price/performance
    cross-over point which is different for different people. At the 4/3rds
    size the 10.1 MP is approx the same pixel density as a 12 MP APS-C size

    How many people are going to think that the Live-view is a big thing?
    When I worked at CompUSA a lady came in all upset that her Canon
    Rebel-XT couldn't show the picture on the back screen before she pressed
    the shutter.

    Its a good camera for people upgrading from P&S and EVF Cameras. Well,
    maybe not the E-3, but the E-500 & E-410, and suchlike. I know a lot of
    people don't like to acknowledge such a thing as "good enough", but it
    does exist.
    Brion K. Lienhart, Oct 17, 2007
  7. Tony Polson

    Tony Polson Guest

    You make dangerous assumptions.
    If it is good enough for you, go buy it.
    Tony Polson, Oct 17, 2007
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    Scott W Guest

    would you pay $1700 for a camera that was just "good enough"? I know I
    wouldn't, not when there are a lot of camera that are far cheaper that
    are "good enough"

    The Live-view is a big thing and Olympus looks like they did it right
    with a swiveling screen. If you don't thing this is a big thing then I
    would assume you don't photograph people much, or if you do you don't
    mind photo shat are shot from far to high a view point. When I am
    shooting people I find I am constantly crouching down to get the right
    angle on them, hard on the knees.

    Scott W, Oct 18, 2007
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    acl Guest

    Not only for that; also for long exposures without a tripod. Currently
    I rest my camera on ledges, walls etc, and do various things to keep
    the lens pointing where I want it (supporting it on a book I may have
    with me, a mobile phone or whatever). Looking through the viewfinder
    is impossible most of the time. So an articulating LCD would be much
    better than my current solution (take shots, try to look at them on
    the LCD without moving the camera, adjust framing, repeat), and better
    than just live view. eg for this shot
    I gave up on trying to frame the way I wanted after 5-6 tries,
    although I wasn't satisfied. Just too much hassle to control zoom,
    roll, pitch and yaw without realtime feedback.

    Live view on an articulating LCD and image stabilization on the sensor
    are the two things that will make me change my D200 when they happen
    on a nikon camera. Well, more resolution would also be useful.
    acl, Oct 18, 2007
  10. A right angle finder doesn't help with the overhead bit, but it makes
    low-angle stuff a lot easier. At least for my needs, it makes live view a
    not particularly big thing at all. I suppose PJ types would prefer live
    view, though.

    David J. Littleboy
    Tokyo, Japan
    David J. Littleboy, Oct 18, 2007
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    Chris Savage Guest

    Chris Savage, Oct 18, 2007

  12. On overheads with right angle viewer: Would holding camera upsidedown do
    the trick? Mas o menos....
    John McWilliams, Oct 18, 2007
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    Scott W Guest

    You know I am going to have to get one of those right angle view
    finders, I should have done that a long time ago. Still live view would
    be nice.

    Scott W, Oct 18, 2007
  14. Tony Polson

    Tony Polson Guest

    Tony Polson, Oct 18, 2007
  15. I've seen info on electonic devices that magnify (probably poorly, but I
    don't know) the image by attaching to the viewfinder- presumably
    producing a tiny image you can see from multiple angles.

    I've also thought of using my Canon G-3 as a viewfinder for a dSLR by
    bolting the two together, but haven't to date. Parallax would be a
    problem, but then I'd use it only for overhead closeups.
    John McWilliams, Oct 18, 2007
  16. Tony Polson

    Scott W Guest

    There are optical right angle viewers, this is the one I am looking at.

    If anyone has experience with that model, either good or bad, I would
    love to hear about it.

    Scott W, Oct 18, 2007
  17. So what are you using? No reason to be stuck with puny "full-frame" 35mm
    when medium format is so much better.
    Don't need to. I bought an E-300 with the two lens kit 2 1/2 years ago.
    Plus various lenses, accessories & a flash since then. 8MP is "good
    enough" for me.
    Brion K. Lienhart, Oct 18, 2007
  18. Tony Polson

    Guest Guest

    that's the zigview. it's pretty good, with the limitations that any
    lcd system would have. also, it can remote control the camera from the
    viewer which is handy.
    Guest, Oct 18, 2007
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    Matt Clara Guest

    Yes, even in price. A better comparison would be between the E-3 and
    the D300 (or even D200).
    Matt Clara, Oct 18, 2007
  20. Canon's current Angle Finder C is seriously pricey, but I found a used Angle
    Finder B for US$70 or so at a used store here. The "B" is quite nicely made
    (metal, not plastic), but doesn't have any magnification.

    David J. Littleboy
    Tokyo, Japan
    David J. Littleboy, Oct 19, 2007
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