Olympus E-330. I can hear the SLR luddites now....

Discussion in 'Olympus' started by RichA, Jan 26, 2006.

  1. RichA

    RichA Guest

    RichA, Jan 26, 2006
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  2. Rich, considering the number of vitriolic stances you have on (what would
    seem like) a diverse range of topics, one wonders exactly what you WOULD
    like to see released- some bizarre Nikon F2/Sony R1 hybrid, perhaps?

    I know I wouldn't want to spend five minutes in your head.

    Martin Francis, Jan 26, 2006
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    Charles Guest

    but is it plastic?
    Charles, Jan 26, 2006
  4. And what only 14 lenses made for it?
    Darrell Larose, Jan 26, 2006
  5. RichA

    RichA Guest

    Yes, unfortunately.
    RichA, Jan 26, 2006
  6. RichA

    RichA Guest

    Lenses are likely subject to the same market mentality as anything
    else. A handful are used by most people, most of the time, while the
    others are used very infrequently. The American need for huge
    diversity in products (a buyer from Walmart commented they needed 14
    colours of toilet seats or the product woudn't sell, even though 90% of
    the sales centred around three colours) is weird.
    RichA, Jan 26, 2006
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    RichA Guest

    Abstract thought would most likely be fatal for you.
    RichA, Jan 26, 2006
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    nrh Guest


    Punchlines without the lead-in are a non-event at best and a symptom of
    something more disturbing, at worst.
    Please quote your intended recipient in your responses, or we may be obliged
    to disregard your contributions, on compassionate grounds.

    nrh, Jan 26, 2006
  9. Any thought process that leads to that constant bombardment of a Usenet
    group with deliberately inflammatory subjects could not only be described as
    abstract, but several other less complimentary words also. The only risk
    your mind poses is the remote possibility I could die from sheer pity.


    Martin Francis, Jan 26, 2006
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    C J Southern Guest

    And if we'd have been meant to go about our lives naked, we'd have been born
    that way.
    C J Southern, Jan 26, 2006
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    tomm42 Guest

    Hey the view through the LCD is useless since it shuts down the
    autofocus. Also the view in the viewfinder is supposed to be very dim.
    Try to hold a camera that big at arms length to use the LCD. I guess
    you could put it on a tripod and use it as a view camera, but you still
    have to focus through the viewfinder. Seems like a gimic to me.
    tomm42, Jan 27, 2006
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    Eric Gill Guest

    No, my little immature Nym-shifting troll, plenty is supplied by the review

    Live View issues

    Live View does on the whole work, certainly it's best in good light or in
    Mode B for assessing depth of field and accurate focus for macro work. It's
    fair to say that in Mode B you can achieve far more accurate focus point /
    DOF setup than you could using the viewfinder. However we did experience
    several issues with the E-330's Live View implementation which left us with
    a distinct 'if you can't do it properly, don't do it at all' feeling.

    * Dark view in low light with A Mode, noise and flickering if 'Live
    View Boost' is set to On
    * White balance is not applied to live view (inaccurate representation
    of color) in either mode
    * Brightness of live view not representative of final shot (exposure
    compen. ignored)
    * Mis-aligned A Mode CCD (tilted slightly compared to the main sensor)
    * Reduced frame coverage in A Mode (just 92%)
    * Viewfinder eyepiece shutter recommendation in A Mode
    * Viewfinder status LCD blank when A Mode live view is active
    * No auto-focus in B Mode
    * Additional shutter release lag in B Mode (one second more)
    * Additional darkening of the viewfinder view

    Game, set and match.
    Eric Gill, Jan 27, 2006
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    Kyle Jones Guest

    That's mode B, which is plainly a dedicated macro shooting mode and
    you'd likely be using manual focus there anyway. Mode A has normal
    Kyle Jones, Jan 27, 2006
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    Rich Guest

    This I question since my C8080 produces views brighter than ambient
    with autoboost working. Brighter than any optical viewfinder.
    That shouldn't present a problem since you aren't using it to set
    Not a big deal. FF sensored cams are at about 70%.
    That's a pain.
    Have to wait and see what effect this stuff actually has on
    using the camera to take images.
    Rich, Jan 27, 2006
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    Skip M Guest

    Ahem, my FF 5D viewfinder coverage is 96%, the FF 1Ds mkII is 100%, the
    APS-C 20D is 95%. Magnification in the viewfinder is in the 70% range, that
    may be what you're thinking about.
    Skip M, Jan 28, 2006
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    Eric Gill Guest

    Piggybacking, since he Nym-shifted back to one of his killfiled Nyms.

    That's the review you quoted. If you don't like it, stop quoting it.

    Right. You're guessing. The best way to ensure quality shots!
    Yep - IOW, he's lying, and poorly.

    Forgot to invent excuses for a whole bunch of the points, too.
    Eric Gill, Jan 28, 2006
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    G.T. Guest

    Well, it is mighty fugly.

    G.T., Feb 3, 2006
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    Rich Guest

    I imagine someone being transported from 1960 and seeing the cars now
    might think the same thing.
    Rich, Feb 3, 2006
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Don't be an ass. It's a feature that is both useful (in the right
    situations) and somewhat innevitable for DSLRs.

    That's three important kudos for Oly: great lenses, the dust removal and
    now the preview. While I have great disdain for their sensor size, they
    are being smart in lenses, dust cleaning and now helping the
    photographer with his composition.
    Alan Browne, Feb 12, 2006
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    RichA Guest

    Yes, it is a great feature. But like autofocus all those years ago,
    the cretins are
    braying that it has no use on a DSLR.
    RichA, Feb 13, 2006
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