Olympus E300/E500 forum

Discussion in 'Olympus' started by Alfred Molon, Dec 9, 2005.

  1. Alfred Molon

    lens crack Guest


    I love the way that you 'Canon has the *edge*!! - as if it's a damn close
    run thing, but Canon piped Oly to the post in the last few seconds of the
    race!

    Actually, Rich, when it comes to noise, Oly & Canon are playing two very
    different games - on different pitches, in different cities, in different
    countries, and on different planets!......

    It's a bit like Manchester United versus the St Cecilia's Home For Elderly &
    Infirm Roadsweepers First XI, no contest, and somewhat degrading to all who
    participate........
     
    lens crack, Dec 10, 2005
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  2. Alfred Molon

    Alfred Molon Guest

    And welcome to my killfile. Nothing personal and probably there is
    nothing wrong with you, I just don't want to read your posts.
     
    Alfred Molon, Dec 10, 2005
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  3. Alfred Molon

    SMS Guest

    The Olympus digital SLRs are very inexpensive, though for a second-tier
    product the Konica-Minolta D50 and D70 are a much better deal for a much
    better product, with lower noise and build in image-stabilization.
     
    SMS, Dec 10, 2005
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  4. Alfred Molon

    SMS Guest

    Yes, that is the bottom line. The smaller sensors are inherently
    noisier. For a low-priced D-SLR, the Konica-Minolta products are a much
    better choice.
     
    SMS, Dec 10, 2005
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  5. Alfred Molon

    lens cracker Guest


    One of the eternal mysteries of the internet is *why* foolish old farts like
    you feel that they have to make An Important Public Announcement whenever
    they killfile someone!

    Do you announce *everything* that you do? - "Important Notice - I am now
    about to go for a crap".......

    Just *do* it Alf - and stop being such a pompous little Olympus owner..

    (killfiles are far from infallible, anyway - as you now know from reading
    this post.....)
     
    lens cracker, Dec 11, 2005
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  6. Alfred Molon

    lens crack Guest

    No IS for the Nikons - you're probably thinking of the Minolta 7D.

    Still, you're right about them being a better buy than the E300/500 - noise
    levels *are* important, despite what the Olympus crowd say.

    Besides, who in their right mind is going to buy a dirt cheap body like the
    300/500, and then spend three, four, five times the cost on a 'good' Olympus
    lens? - no-one, and that means that buyers of the 300/500 are stuck with the
    cheap 'kit' lenses, which makes them virtual point & shoot cameras (with
    noise levels to match)

    If the idiot who persuaded Olympus management to adopt the four-thirds
    format had a shred of decency he would commit ritual suicide at the next
    board meeting! - mind you, if things go much worse for Olympus, his
    colleagues will probably stab him to death anyway....
     
    lens crack, Dec 11, 2005
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  7. Alfred Molon

    Stacey Guest

    Skip M wrote:

    Not having to ever deal with sensor dust for one thing.
     
    Stacey, Dec 11, 2005
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  8. Alfred Molon

    Stacey Guest

    lens cracker wrote:

    And then losers like you change their name to get out of said persons kill
    file.
     
    Stacey, Dec 11, 2005
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  9. Alfred Molon

    lens crack Guest


    Aghhhhhhhhhh! - not that hoary old chestnut again, please!!!

    Look, I realise that, to an Olympus owner, cleaning the sensor is a fate
    worse than death! - but, honestly, for everyone else it's as routine as
    polishing up a lens!

    Besides, it doesn't have to be done very often - I change lenses constantly
    and in 8 months I've wet cleaned the sensor once (my fault because I blew on
    the sensor and deposited some spittle) and blown it with a rocket blower
    three or four times afterwards - just to forestall any dust.

    That's it - a few seconds with a bulb blower and the job's done.

    So *why* do Olympians get stained underwear at the very thought of cleaning
    their own sensor?
     
    lens crack, Dec 11, 2005
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  10. Alfred Molon

    lens crack Guest


    Perhaps you could spare a few minutes from your busy daily schedule with
    Near Image, and explain to me *why* circumventing Alf's killfile makes me a
    'loser'?

    What *is* a loser?
     
    lens crack, Dec 11, 2005
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  11. Alfred Molon

    SMS Guest

    Argh, I meant 5D and 7D, not D50 and D70. I wish these companies would
    stop all using model numbers that are similar!
     
    SMS, Dec 11, 2005
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  12. Alfred Molon

    Skip M Guest

    --
    Skip Middleton
    http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com
    Better than a 5D? Not really...nor is it any better than a Canon 20D with a
    10-22 or a Nikon D200 with a 12-24 Nikkor or 10.5mm.
    Which means they give you less control over your DOF...
    No, they are not. The 35-100 f2.0 is both larger and heavier than the Canon
    70-200 f2.8L IS USM, for instance, and more expensive, to boot.
    My Canon 16-35 is an f2.8 clear along its zoom range, so that, if I actually
    made heads or tails of that statement, is not a trueism.
    I'll concede that one...
    How much larger is it than the Canon EF mount?
    Or just a Canon 5D, 1Ds mkII, or a Nikon D2x. Which all outresolve the Oly
    by a whopping amount, and all have demonstrably lower noise, and cost
    considerably less than the $26,000 of the Hassy or Mamiya.
    Give it up, Alfred, technology has moved on beyond what Oly, Pentax and
    Minolta offer at this point.
     
    Skip M, Dec 11, 2005
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  13. Alfred Molon

    Skip M Guest

    That would be the only thing...and certainly not worth having to deal with a
    1/2 sized sensor. Minox was considered a novelty...
     
    Skip M, Dec 11, 2005
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  14. Alfred Molon

    Skip M Guest

    Especially when the Canon 5D and Minolta 5D are on near opposite ends of the
    scale...
     
    Skip M, Dec 11, 2005
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  15. Alfred Molon

    G.T. Guest

    I love ostriches.

    Greg
     
    G.T., Dec 11, 2005
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  16. Alfred Molon

    G.T. Guest

    Don't try to convince me that the sensor shaking gets rid of all dust.

    Greg
     
    G.T., Dec 11, 2005
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  17. Alfred Molon

    Stacey Guest

    Because you're a childish troll who has nothing better to do with your life
    than reconfigure your newsreader to taunt him?
    Looked in the mirror today? :)
     
    Stacey, Dec 11, 2005
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  18. Alfred Molon

    Stacey Guest


    Why would I need to? I've owned this camera for almost a year now, never
    given the first thought about how or where I change lenses (just like I
    never did with my film camera) and still not a hint of dust. Believe what
    you want, I know it works!
     
    Stacey, Dec 11, 2005
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  19. Alfred Molon

    Stacey Guest

    How about no lens backfocus problems? Good wide angle optics?

    Everyone knows the kodak sensors are noisy at high ISO's, even their full
    frame sensor cameras had more noise at high ISO's than others. If you need
    ISO 800 and up, buy a canon and live with it's problems.
     
    Stacey, Dec 11, 2005
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  20. Alfred Molon

    Skip M Guest

    Don't have the first, never did, with a D30, 10D, 2 20Ds and 2 5Ds. Good
    wid angle, got that, not great, but good...
    "A Canon and it's problems?" Besides the occasional speck of dust, just
    what would those problems be, now. I've had a 5D for two months now, and
    not a single glitch.
    I guess you figure if you keep repeating it, it will be believed, and this
    being the internet, you are right. That's why I keep answering you. You
    have a strange fixation on Canon that is inexplicable.
     
    Skip M, Dec 11, 2005
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