Olympus Evolt-500 vs. these

Discussion in 'Olympus' started by Mr.Bolshoyhuy, Mar 23, 2006.

  1. Mr.Bolshoyhuy

    ian lincoln Guest

    At the moment most english photo albums are 6x4". To get uncropped digital
    images some printers do 6x4.5". Unfortunately getting an album that will
    accept them is proving difficult and therefore expensive. Also i have found
    that despite dividing A4 paper into 4 to get 6x4 prints is actually slightly
    smaller they are still too big to fit in a typical album. i have had to
    trim a few extra millimeters off so its more like 6x3.5". 5x7 seem to fit
    either format with minimal adjustment.
     
    ian lincoln, Apr 8, 2006
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  2. Mr.Bolshoyhuy

    ian lincoln Guest

    Large numbers of people wanting 35mm sensors is why canon made them. Cos
    people would buy them if they made it, providing it was affordable. The
    market was always there and kodak failed spectacularly and pulled out, image
    quality was abominable. It was also stupidly expensive. Most people bought
    the 1dsmkII cos of the sensor. The rest of the features were overkill. The
    5D is selling quite well, a market segment all to itself.
     
    ian lincoln, Apr 8, 2006
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    Paul Furman Guest

    It would be easy to fit a square sensor of APS width in a DSLR but would
    cost significantly more. 4/3 could be done in the same image circle as
    APS and it would be just slightly taller, slightly narrower but it's
    only offered in significantly smaller size.
     
    Paul Furman, Apr 8, 2006
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  4. Mr.Bolshoyhuy

    Rich Guest

    My point about 3:2 sensors exactly. A group with a vested interest in
    seeing 3:2 continue forced it on the camera makers.
    -Rich
     
    Rich, Apr 9, 2006
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  5. Mr.Bolshoyhuy

    Rich Guest

    You think Canon flipped a coin? You don't seriously believe the
    prejudices of the 3:2 crowd had nothing to do with Canon and Nikon's
    decision?
    -Rich
     
    Rich, Apr 9, 2006
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  6. Mr.Bolshoyhuy

    Skip M Guest

    Take a reading comprehension course, and get back to us, will you? C, N, P
    and M had a considerable investment in existing glass that fit a 3:2 format.
    What incentive do any of them have to change? On the other hand, if any
    format they came up with fit the existing glass' image circle, what do any
    of the owners care? Smaller sensors are smaller sensors. To get a larger
    sensor than 35mm film would require re-engineering the entire product, body,
    mount and lenses. An investment in R&D that would be unjustified.
    Geez, Rich, you've hit a new low in illogical retorts.
     
    Skip M, Apr 9, 2006
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  7. Mr.Bolshoyhuy

    Rich Guest

    The investment would only be unjustified if the product Canon or
    whoever turned out was no better on digitals than what they have now.
    The IDEA is to bring out lenses that can improve upon what you had
    before, not just to see how cheaply you can produce a lens.

    And it introducing new lenses that actually (heavens!) cost MONEY
    to design and build, then tell it it Zeiss, who made new lenses to
    sell to Nikon users.

    If Canon wants to, they can keep selling the same lenses they've had
    for years, comfortable in the fact the design costs have been
    amortized many years ago. Just like the Model T costs were for Ford.
    -Rich
     
    Rich, Apr 9, 2006
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    Jeremy Nixon Guest

    The only people I can think of who would have a vested interest in 3:2
    would be photographers, the people whose interests *should* be considered.
     
    Jeremy Nixon, Apr 9, 2006
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    Tom Ross Guest

    What about MY investment, Rich? The incentive would have to be very
    high for me to justify another format change. I retired my OM -1n kit
    on the shelf when autofocus and a lightmeter became a worthwhile
    investment. I put my Nikon kit on the shelf when I decided to go
    digital. That occurred over a span of 30-years.

    The IDEA, for me, it to drag around a wagon until the wheels fall off.
    It isn't like buying the White Album again....
    Canon can be comfortable in the fact there is a viable market for
    their lenses. Ford can't say the same about the Model T.


    TR

    Perna condita delenda est
     
    Tom Ross, Apr 9, 2006
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    Rich Guest

    The same retards who didn't like programmed cameras, didn't like
    autofocus, don't like live LCDs, etc, etc. Yeah, you really want to
    take your cues from Luddites when it comes to a piece of electronic
    equipment.
    -Rich
     
    Rich, Apr 9, 2006
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  11. Mr.Bolshoyhuy

    Rich Guest

    No, but they could about the ancient FOX body, which they kept
    making from 1979 until 2000.
    I think however even Canon will start producing lenses if not designed
    for other formats, designed to work better with their sensors, it's
    inevitable.
    -Rich
     
    Rich, Apr 9, 2006
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    Jeremy Nixon Guest

    Get back to us when you become a photographer.
    I *definitely* don't want to take any cues at all from anyone who looks
    at a camera as a "piece of electronic equipment". Such people are
    entirely irrelevant to photography.
     
    Jeremy Nixon, Apr 9, 2006
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    Tom Ross Guest

    Rich, you ignored my response to your ridiculous position (that Canon
    abandon the 3:2 aspect and develop a new format) and started off on a
    whole 'nuther, equally ridiculous path.

    As for your new "prediction", the EF-S series is an example of Canon
    developing and producing lenses designed to work better with their
    sensors. And I think it is inevitable Canon will continue to deveolp
    and produce better lenses. Nikon, too.

    As for the Ford Fox platform, anything that made a T-Bird look like a
    Granada can't be considered a good thing.



    TR

    Perna condita delenda est
     
    Tom Ross, Apr 10, 2006
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