OMG! The D3, A Wedding Photographer's Dream Come True!

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Rita Ä Berkowitz, Sep 24, 2007.

  1. Simply amazing! The D3 simply sees in the dark and has such great dynamic
    range it is beyond belief! It looks like flash photography is going to be a
    thing of the past. I'm starting to worry that the old Mk III just might be
    a lame duck and get its neck chopped before it fully matures in less than
    18-month. AMAZING!

    <http://cliffmautner.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/09/ok-its-after-1a.html>






    Rita
     
    Rita Ä Berkowitz, Sep 24, 2007
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    D-Mac Guest

    Well, I wouldn't go that far yet. But it's shaping up to be one hell of a
    camera and priced at $5k AUD it's only twice the price of the amazing
    Fujifilm S5 and gives you about twice the functionality. Seems more value
    than the nearly $10K of the Canon. I'm still not convinced the dynamic range
    is there but I didn't get a chance to do much with the eval unit. Limit of
    10 shots per person.

    Doug
     
    D-Mac, Sep 24, 2007
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  3. Personally I think it is underpriced and going to be a steal at $5k. I've
    seen pics from the S5 and while they are much better than the D200 there is
    much room for improvement. I don't think the S5's functionality is nowhere
    near what the D200 is. The lame menus and layout of the S5 make it unusable
    for me.

    As for the D3's dynamic range, it is there. You're forgetting the samples
    you are seeing come straight out of the camera in JPG. I can't wait to see
    what can be done with RAW. The D3 seems like it is going to be a winner.







    Rita
     
    Rita Ä Berkowitz, Sep 24, 2007
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    Annika1980 Guest

    Hey, D-Mac, who wrote this?

    "Yeah I read that one. I also analysed the images. I guess the old
    saying: "never let the truth interfere with a good story" applies in
    spades to these sites where the owner has signed an agreement with
    Nikon. Sort of like taking a picture with your hands tied behind your
    back."

    Actually, I changed the word Canon to Nikon. It was D-Mac's reply to
    when I showed him a link to MR's 40D preview.
    http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/canon-40D-handson.shtml

    D-Mac's point was that you should beware of the shills.
     
    Annika1980, Sep 25, 2007
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    Annika1980 Guest

    Dibs.
     
    Annika1980, Sep 25, 2007
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    Kinon O'Cann Guest

    And his basis for comparison is what? Another Nikon? Agreed it looks good,
    but they all do. Didn't the 1DIII look great before the little focus issue
    cropped up?
     
    Kinon O'Cann, Sep 25, 2007
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    Matt Ion Guest

    All that is fine, but the really important question is, how does its
    STRAP rate??
     
    Matt Ion, Sep 25, 2007
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  8. It's a Nikon; there's no question that the strap will be wonderful. Rita is
    definitely right here: the strap will be the best thing about the camera.

    David J. Littleboy

    Tokyo, Japan
     
    David J. Littleboy, Sep 25, 2007
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    Cynicor Guest

    Er...on Rita or on the Mk.III?
     
    Cynicor, Sep 25, 2007
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  10. It's irrelevant to even ask for a comparison since there isn't a dSLR on the
    market that even comes close to this level of image quality and performance.
    Sure, the Mk III has great image performance an really performs at high ISO,
    I just think that after looking at these JPG images from the D3 that the Mk
    III is going to be trailing in the performance arena. As for the "focus
    issue" of the Mk III, I'm sure Canon has fixed most of that by now. I don't
    think any Canon shooter think they will ever see a pro dSLR body that
    doesn't have any bugs and/or needs at least six firmware updates in the
    first year of release. I have absolutely no complaints about the Mk III and
    I would highly recommend it.







    Rita
     
    Rita Ä Berkowitz, Sep 25, 2007
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  11. Given the quality of those images, I don't want to rain too heavily on
    this parade... but I would make the following comments:

    1. Those are *superb* wedding shots. (He's almost as good as I used
    to be (cough).. (O; ) Seriously, his 'eye' is excellent, he has a
    great knack for being in the right place and shooting at the right
    moment, and of course he is working in a wonderful location (and one
    he is probably used to, which makes a big difference).

    By the way, Doug, can you post *anything* at all in this league? (O;

    2. Those images are only ~600 pixels wide for chrissakes!!! Even a
    god-awful Panasonic FZ50 (and certainly my Fuji 9500) will give smooth
    noise-free-looking high-ISO images at *that* size.

    Here's a slightly exaggerated example - a snapshot taken a couple of
    days ago on my Fuji *prosumer* at 1600 ISO, in far lower light levels,
    reduced from 3400 pixels to 600. Byebye noise. (Hand-held, leaning
    against a post on a pub balcony, 1/4 sec, f2.8).
    http://www.marktphoto.com/coonabarabran.jpg
    That's clearly not meant to be an artistic masterpiece, just a simple
    demo of how ridiculous it is to make any judgement of a camera's high
    iso ability from an image of *that* size. It looks fine, but note the
    bloody awful noise in the full-res crop... By the way, I can
    thoroughly recommend the Imperial pub at Coonabarabran - I got a pork/
    beef roast meal there to die for (skip the garlic bread tho..) Now
    what were we talking about.. oh yeah..

    I'm not suggesting that the D3 is not going to be a great camera, but
    those shots are great because of the photographer. And while they say
    very little about the D3's noise characteristics, I'll concede the
    colour looks pretty good. Kudos to the photographer - great work.
     
    mark.thomas.7, Sep 25, 2007
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    Mick Brown Guest

    Um I think someone is confused, it's actually $5k US not AUD, from what I
    have been told by NPS and several resellers, they are expecting it to be
    around the $7.5k mark AUD

    Mick Brown
     
    Mick Brown, Sep 25, 2007
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    Kinon O'Cann Guest


    Please post your production samples of RAW shots at full res for the rest of
    us to see. Be sure to shoot them under controlled conditions side by side
    with something like the 1DIII or the 5D so we can do an actual comparison,
    rather than all these idiotic "gee it looks great" posts.

    Then again, you're probably just trolling, as usual.
     
    Kinon O'Cann, Sep 25, 2007
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    Annika1980 Guest

    Yessir, at web resolutions Noise becomes Detail.

    Your point is a good one. The D3 might turn out to be a fine camera,
    but we'll never know by looking at small JPGs from pre-release
    versions.

    BTW, has Nikon chosen a year for release yet?
     
    Annika1980, Sep 25, 2007
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    JohnR66 Guest

    Without the white borders, these images are NOT EVEN basic VGA sized!
    I love it when someone rants and raves about a camera or lens then posts
    little postcard images.
    Full sized crops please!
     
    JohnR66, Sep 25, 2007
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    JohnR66 Guest

    Won't see this camera for about a year LOL!

    BTW,
    Walmart sells a Spider man camera that shoots VGA resolution pix for just
    $19
     
    JohnR66, Sep 25, 2007
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    Noons Guest

    Too true. The first shot in particular is
    absolutely amazing: what a moment!
    I wish I could shoot anywhere near that.
    And it's not a particularly challenging
    technical shot: just an absolutely
    magical moment!


    Thank you for pointing this out.
    I've only been saying it for years,
    but it's good to see others start
    to draw it out as well.

    However: given some of the claimed ISO settings,
    I have to be impressed by the intensity of the colours
    and how well gradated and detailed they look.
    Something I can't see in most high iso 1dm3 shots:
    they look like someone brushed a watercolour
    with a wet rag.

    yeah sure, but the thing is: the colours look a bit
    drab and sort of the overall olive brown tone of
    a stretched ISO shot. The colours in the high ISO
    d3 examples are brilliant, well saturated and very
    contrasty. That augurs well in my book.
    Crap! You had to mention pork pies and a beer
    in Coona, dijntya? :)
    Yeah, it's the high iso intense colours that
    I'm finding amazing as well. We'll see: still
    early days.
     
    Noons, Sep 25, 2007
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    C J Campbell Guest

    Well, he is a heck of a wedding photographer, anyway.

    You still have to pay attention to lighting, even with a D3.
     
    C J Campbell, Sep 25, 2007
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    D-Mac Guest

    IF, Mick IF you buy through the Australian "Channel". I got quoted February
    next year delivery for one. My local HK contact can deliver a couple 2 weeks
    after their release and at under $6k each.

    Doug
     
    D-Mac, Sep 25, 2007
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    Mick Brown Guest

    I have been told by NPS that if I buy from grey market, I will not get
    the support from them that I normally get. For example while my D2Xs is
    in getting repaired at the moment, NPS have given me a loaner.

    So even though it is cheaper, I can't afford to not get that support.

    Mick
     
    Mick Brown, Sep 25, 2007
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