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Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Tony Cooper, Jan 13, 2014.

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    PeterN, Jan 14, 2014
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    While I would have gone for this effect without his urging, one of
    Rick Sammon's "Rules" is: Make pictures, just don't take pictures.

    While a table of milk bottles is a good starting point, it's in post
    where an ordinary shot can be made a little more interesting.
     
    Tony Cooper, Jan 14, 2014
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    Savageduck Guest

    Now that make perfect sense to me.
     
    Savageduck, Jan 14, 2014
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    PeterN Guest

    Told ya. Rick Sammon is great.

    Anticipation is part of making the image.

    <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20140114_Pompano buttefly birds_5757.jpg>

    I have croped and made only minor adjustments in ACR.
    To the extent that the image was made, I was watching them diving and
    had the lens pointed to where I thought they might come up. I was lucky
    to the extent that I was right.

    Here is an earlier shoot in that series.

    <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/20140114_Pompano buttefly birds_5756.jpg>
     
    PeterN, Jan 15, 2014
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    android, Feb 6, 2014
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  7. On this one it's about perfect for me. Your monitor will make a
    difference in how it appears.
     
    John McWilliams, Feb 6, 2014
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    android Guest

    Well, then mine would be better than yours since you need that extra
    local contrast.
     
    android, Feb 6, 2014
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    Savageduck Guest

    Since both of you are using Macs the problem probably lies with a
    calibration issue, with either your display, or your Mk.I eyeball. It
    looks just fine on my Mac display.
     
    Savageduck, Feb 6, 2014
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    I don't mind the comment that it's heavy on the sharpening, but that
    actually isn't the case. No extra sharpening was employed in the
    processing. Just whatever sharpening is built ACR when opening a RAW
    file.

    The effect comes from other Photoshop adjustments. Mostly from
    excessive - but deliberate - manipulation of sliders. It isn't
    supposed to show the bottles in natural color.

    There are times in post when the intent is to show the scene as
    realistically as possible and replicate the scene as the eye sees it.
    Then, there are times in post when the intent is to exaggerate for
    effect. This is an attempt at the latter.
     
    Tony Cooper, Feb 6, 2014
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    android Guest

    If you have a dim monitor, or dizzy eyes you will benefit from extra
    sharpening... No monitor is identical to another, Mac or PC. And yes,
    mine is hardware calibrated!
     
    android, Feb 6, 2014
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    Well, artistic rendering is what we got then. Obviously your workflow is
    ads sharpening somewhere.

    That's the way you like it. Oki, but it's a strain on my eyes...
     
    android, Feb 6, 2014
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    Well, artistic rendering is what we got then. Obviously your workflow
    ads sharpening somewhere.

    That's the way you like it. Oki, but it's a strain on my eyes...
     
    android, Feb 6, 2014
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    It's one image, Android. While I may try something similar on another
    image, this is basically a one-off attempt based on the subject matter
    and what could be done with it. It's not a matter of liking the look,
    but of liking the look for *this* image.

    On other images, I do try for a realistic rendering. Depends on the
    subject matter.
     
    Tony Cooper, Feb 6, 2014
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    I'll let you go, for now... ;-)
     
    android, Feb 6, 2014
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    Here's one that will *really* make your eyes burn:
    http://tonycooper.smugmug.com/Current-Shots/i-4p7DqWQ/0/X2/2014-02-01-5B-X2.jpg

    There's a forum at Grin where "rustaholics" hang out. Any photograph
    featuring rust meets with great approval. Not just rust, though,
    *excessive* rust.

    This Subaru was a little rusty to begin with, but the rust was
    exaggerated in post and then a texture layer was added (as a mask with
    only the car's body left in the mask) to grit it up.

    I should have taken out that white halo on the tire on the right (as
    you view it), though.
     
    Tony Cooper, Feb 6, 2014
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    Savageduck Guest

    I feel a tad less saturated would have been a better effect. Perhaps if
    you used a slightly more subdued texture. Your pseudo rust just appears
    a bit too artificial, but it is good to see you are experimenting with
    this sort of stuff.
     
    Savageduck, Feb 6, 2014
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    I don't think that it is oversharpened. I even doubt that it has been
    sharpened. It looks fine by me.
     
    Eric Stevens, Feb 6, 2014
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    Well, it's not done quite that way. The color is all done in PS
    before the texture's added. The texture, which is on a layer reduced
    to 50% opacity, just adds the mottled appearance. The texture covers
    the entire layer, but a mask was used to remove it from all but the
    body. The actual texture was from my file of images of things I've
    photographed for this purpose. It's actually mildewed wood.
    This was done for the rustaholic group who don't like anything less
    extreme.

    This is *not* a photograph I expect anyone to like outside of the
    group it was done for.
     
    Tony Cooper, Feb 6, 2014
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    Here are a few textures for you to play with:
    <
    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lx56l61b7bbj1se/Ioxd7N4Bbi/Shared Images/Texturesand just for the Hell of it.
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/DNC2409_H1-E1.jpg >
     
    Savageduck, Feb 7, 2014
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