One for the Duck, and anyone else

Discussion in 'Photography' started by tony cooper, Sep 10, 2012.

  1. tony cooper

    tony cooper Guest

    The RAW file I submitted had the Clarity and Vibrance increased by me
    before I opened it in Photoshop. I forgot to reset this. Any other
    changes in the RAW are the "default" settings. The "defaults" are

    Temp = 5650
    Tint= -3
    Blacks = 7
    Brightness = =76
    Contrast = +36

    White Balance was not set.

    I don't know how these are set as defaults in CS4. I routinely adjust
    some or all of them, but the image opens with some adjustments. (Not
    always these settings, of course)

    However, the advantage of RAW is that it is "non-destructive" as
    everyone keeps harping on. The sliders can be re-set by anyone
    working with the file.

    You should be able to make any changes in the .dng (RAW) file that
    suits your style.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 12, 2012
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    otter Guest

    I played around with the DNG. Didn't produce anything substantially
    better than what others have done. You can just look at the other
    submissions. Mine looks something like some of those.

    For the record, I like Floyd's the best of the ones I've seen so far.
    However, not sure it fits the "mandate" of trying to post process to
    age her (not that she needs any help in that department).
     
    otter, Sep 12, 2012
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  3. tony cooper

    tony cooper Guest


    I'm not going to comment on the submitted versions until I think
    they're all in.

    Basically, though, what I'll be looking for includes:

    1. Color or Black and White? I chose black and white, but did so
    thinking of the Duck's similar wrinkled people and his black and white
    treatments. Nothing against color, but I had something in mind when I
    saw the lady and tripped the shutter.

    2. Realism or Ultra-realism? The whole point of selecting this lady
    was the lines on her face. Treat as they are, or emphasize them with
    sharpening and contrast?

    3. Complexion color. She has that leathery look. I'd want to keep
    that if it's a color shot.

    I don't care about how the blouse comes out...blue, white, or
    somewhere in between is immaterial. Either contrasts with her skin
    color.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 12, 2012
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    Savageduck Guest

    OK! Just when I thought I was out, you drag me back in!

    I am going to try something else by taking your dng into LR4 where I
    have access to the latest ACT process 2012. I reset to the shooting
    default an there is a distinct improvement without doing anything els.
    I will post the LR4 results when I am done.
     
    Savageduck, Sep 12, 2012
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  5. tony cooper

    Savageduck Guest

    OK! Now I am done. I think that 13 in CS5 & 4 in LR4 is enough for now!

    These 4 variations were all done in LR4 with no involvement of CS5.
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    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lx56l61b7bbj1se/ZPZI8f0VrM/Shared Images/USENET SHARE/TC-09-LR4-versions
     
    Savageduck, Sep 12, 2012
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  6. tony cooper

    tony cooper Guest

    There wasn't any mandate. This asking others if they want a shot at
    processing an image is a new thing, and I certainly didn't intend to
    set any requirements.

    I should have re-set the RAW to all zeros, but I didn't think of it.
    I figured anyone working in RAW would understand that the settings
    could be changed. And, to be fair, I should have included an
    unadjusted .jpg for those that don't work in RAW.

    I like this new game. It gives me a chance to see what others would
    do with the same image. I don't see it as a win/lose exercise,
    though.

    I encourage others to submit something.
     
    tony cooper, Sep 12, 2012
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    sid Guest

    The only thing I can say in my defence is I had to use an unfamiliar raw
    tool (rawtherapee) as my software of choice (bibble) would not open the dng.

    And they do look unfeasably noisy now they're on dropbox, much more so than
    here on my computer
     
    sid, Sep 12, 2012
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    Alan Browne Guest

    The defaults (at least on CS5 are):
    WB: As shot
    Blacks 5
    Bright 50
    Contrast 25
    Clarity 0
    Vibrance 0
    Saturation 0
    I agree, but I didn't pay attention on my first edit and started with
    your values and increased the blacks.
    I certainly did - at least for the colour version. I reset to the usual
    defaults, increased exposure and blacks and went from there into PS.
     
    Alan Browne, Sep 12, 2012
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