One Last camera question/favor

Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by Matt, Dec 8, 2009.

  1. Matt

    Matt Guest

    The owner of the company I work for has become a reward points junky and he
    is telling me that he gets 4 points for every dollar spent at sonystyle.com
    so we have to order our camera from there. About the best I can do on their
    website is a HVR-Z7U (which is a decent camera)... but I was set to purchase
    a PMW-EX1R.

    So, I need some good argument points to use when I make my last pitch for
    the PMW-EX1R and I was wondering if anyone here has used the HVR and can
    offer any insight.
     
    Matt, Dec 8, 2009
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  2. But what do you intend to do with it? Perhaps the Z7U is sufficient for
    whatever your applications(s)? (The owner's additctions notwithstanding.)
     
    Richard Crowley, Dec 8, 2009
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  3. Matt

    Matt Guest

    I'm in-house production for a small chain of home improvement stores. I
    produce TV commercials for 3 different markets, both local network and
    cable. And we also produce 3 to 5 minute marketing videos for trade shows as
    well as 2 to 5 minute how-to segments for both local television and web.
     
    Matt, Dec 8, 2009
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  4. Matt

    Matt Guest

    Thank you! I've already told him we would take a hit on quality levels but
    he was still asking if the Z7 would be broadcast acceptable and to be honest
    I was really thinking that it would fall just under what the stations will
    take (though I've learned over the years that if you spend enough money in
    advertising, the stations will take just about anything you give them). I'll
    explain to him about the squeeze and see if that convinces him.
     
    Matt, Dec 8, 2009
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  5. "Matt" wrote ...
    If you are producing commercials for public airing, does your owner
    want his commercials to look like home movies? I higher-end camera
    like the EX1R is capable of producing much more "broadcast quality"
    pictures even without optimal lighting, etc. This frequently seems to be
    the case where they want a shot of something or setting up an ad-hoc
    scene, etc. without the proper lighting.

    I am turned off by local spots that look like home moves. I figure that
    if they don't care enough about the quality of their video, maybe they
    don't care about the quality of their product or service, either.
     
    Richard Crowley, Dec 8, 2009
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  6. Matt

    Mike Kujbida Guest


    And therein lies the rub.
    The Z7U is more than capable of delivering video of a quality that will
    meet the OP's needs.
    The key is that anything done with it MUST be well lit.
    I've said it numerous times before and I'll say it again.
    A well-lit spot shot with a cheap camera will ALWAYS look better than a
    poorly-lit spot shot with an expensive camera.

    Mike
     
    Mike Kujbida, Dec 8, 2009
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  7. "Mike Kujbida" wrote ...
    Indeed. But I guess I automatically dismissed "well-lit" right after
    the part about the reward points being more important than using
    the right camera.
     
    Richard Crowley, Dec 8, 2009
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  8. Matt

    Matt Guest

    What's the skinny on the newish Sony NXCAM?
     
    Matt, Dec 9, 2009
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  9. Matt

    Jerry Guest

    : On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:09:03 -0500, in 'rec.video.production',
    : in article <by the way...>,
    :
    : >What's the skinny on the newish Sony NXCAM?
    :
    :
    http://www.sony.co.uk/biz/view/Show...Overview&imageType=Main&category=NXCamcorders
    :
    : You'll find a link on that Web page to download a PDF with some
    : information.
    :

    Careful, that URL leads to the PAL (UK market) version, the spec
    *might not* be the same for the NTSC (US) version.
     
    Jerry, Dec 9, 2009
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  10. Do you think they will continue to make NTSC and PAL versions?
    AFAIK all the XDCAM models do both simply by selecting your
    desired format from the menu.
     
    Richard Crowley, Dec 10, 2009
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  11. I was speaking specifically about the XDCAM-EX models
    (I have an EX1). I was extrapolating to assume that all the
    XDCAM (and all the modern digital?) lines were now
    "international". Perhaps not.

    Any more, it comes down to changing a few constant values
    in the compression algorithm. Its not a matter of hardware
    differences anymore. Bits is bits.
    "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many
    of them to choose from. " - Andrew S. Tannenbaum
    http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/473.html
     
    Richard Crowley, Dec 11, 2009
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  12. My protestations were specifically about people trying to
    take distribution-grade compressed video and attempting
    production-grade editing with them. (Silk purse weaving out
    of sow's ear material.)
    Indeed. Most flexible camera I have owned. Almost too many degrees
    of freedom. I need to develop some specialized profiles for some
    of the low-light situations where I shoot regularly. (And/or maybe
    just work on the lighting within the venue's limitations.)
    You can tell by the head-switching noise! :)
    Amazing both what we used to have to use to get decent quality,
    but also how some of the quality standards have dropped from
    the "good old days".

    "They just don't make them like they used to!"
    "No, they never did!" Muppets Statler & Waldorf
     
    Richard Crowley, Dec 11, 2009
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