Opening Pentax *ist DS RAW .PEF files in Windows 98?

Discussion in 'Pentax' started by Helen Edith Stephenson, Jan 8, 2005.

  1. Pentax say on the box that the Windows system requirement is Windows
    ME/2000/XP and they're not kidding. I'd hoped that the limitation was
    something to do with requiring USB 2.0 support for uploading images,
    which I didn't care about as I've got a USB card reader which is quite
    happy to read my Secure Digital card.

    However, the software with the *ist DS (including the software for
    processing RAW images) requires some methods in Share32.dll which simply
    don't exist in Win98. My other half says it would be a mistake to copy
    Share32.dll from WinME or WinXP and overwrite my Win98 version...

    I've found and downloaded a .PEF plugin from the Pentax site, but it
    also claims to need Windows ME/2000/XP plus it needs PhotoShop 5. I'm
    currently running PhotoShop 4 LE but have a CD with 5 LE on it in the
    box that my Epson Stylus Photo 1200 printer came in five or six years
    ago. I've just tried to load it and the serial number on it doesn't
    work:-( After all this time, I probably don't have a lot of come-back
    from Epson over it, either:-( The plugin definitely doesn't work with 4
    LE, but I don't know whether that's because of Photoshop or Win98.



    Has anybody had any success at opening and editing .PEF files on a
    Windows 98 system?



    I might have to bite the bullet and upgrade to WinXP, but I'd rather not
    if I don't have to, particularly as I've still got the *ist DS to pay
    off my credit card and don't want to spend any more than I have to:)

    On the bright side, I can upload JPEG images via my USB card reader, and
    I've got software which will open and manipulate those, so I can use the
    *ist DS, just not its RAW facility. If I start shooting in RAW, I'll
    probably need to invest in more SD cards, too, which is yet more
    expense!

    Helen

    Helen Edith Stephenson <helen at baronmoss dot demon dot co dot uk>
     
    Helen Edith Stephenson, Jan 8, 2005
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    Gaderian Guest

    Paint Shop Pro ver 9 works with Windows98 SE or better and opens *.PEF RAW
    files.
    You can find it here: http://deals.jasc.com/jan2005/?
     
    Gaderian, Jan 8, 2005
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  3. [snip]

    My other half found the generic security code for PhotoShop 5 LE and
    I've installed it. The plugin doesn't work:-(

    It reports that it's "unable to display preview".

    Anyway, I'm glad I've loaded Photoshop 5 LE as it apparently does 99
    layers instead of 5:)

    Helen

    Helen Edith Stephenson <helen at baronmoss dot demon dot co dot uk>
     
    Helen Edith Stephenson, Jan 8, 2005
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  4. Thanks!

    Helen

    Helen Edith Stephenson <helen at baronmoss dot demon dot co dot uk>
     
    Helen Edith Stephenson, Jan 8, 2005
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  5. Helen Edith Stephenson

    John Bean Guest

    Not DS files, they're not the same as those from the D.

    Apart from the Pentax software the only other that can use .PEF files from
    the DS is the beta of ACR 2.4 (for Photoshop CS and Elements 3).
     
    John Bean, Jan 8, 2005
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  6. Helen Edith Stephenson

    John Bean Guest

    Helen, I understand your frustrations. That said I seriously advise you to
    bite the bullet and upgrade your OS. An increasing amount of software will
    become unavailable to you if you continue to cling onto an OS that was far
    from perfect in 1998, let alone 2005...

    You could use Dave Coffin's dcraw (http://www.cybercom.net/~dcoffin/dcraw/)
    - there's a version you can get pre-compiled for Windows - which can open
    PEF files from the DS. Other than that, there's nothing AFAIK that will work
    for you in Win98. Sorry.
     
    John Bean, Jan 8, 2005
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  7. It's looking increasingly likely that an upgrade to WinXP may become
    inevitable. If I can put it off for a bit longer, I'd like to, but if I
    want to shoot RAW images, I think this PC is going to require an
    upgrade.

    Helen

    Helen Edith Stephenson <helen at baronmoss dot demon dot co dot uk>
     
    Helen Edith Stephenson, Jan 8, 2005
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  8. Helen Edith Stephenson

    Gaderian Guest

    Interesting! I didn't know that. Glad I have my D
     
    Gaderian, Jan 8, 2005
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  9. Helen Edith Stephenson

    John Bean Guest

    Ah, but my DS can store 92 raw files on a 1GB card :)

    Third party support for the DS will catch up eventually I imagine, but as a
    CS user I'm happy that Adobe are on the ball.
     
    John Bean, Jan 8, 2005
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  10. Helen Edith Stephenson

    Jer Guest


    I don't know what kind of PC your still using with Win98, but you may
    need to take a hard and honest look at upgrading the PC itself, as WinXP
    doesn't play nice with under-powered CPUs.
     
    Jer, Jan 8, 2005
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  11. I don't know what kind of PC your still using with Win98, but you may
    need to take a hard and honest look at upgrading the PC itself, as WinXP
    doesn't play nice with under-powered CPUs.[/QUOTE]

    It's a Pentium III. Can't remember if it's 500MHz or 550MHz. It seemed a
    lot at the time when I bought it back in 1998 or 1999!

    My other half wants me to buy a new case with motherboard and power
    supply already installed, and get a new processor, and then transfer the
    rest of my bits across, but I want to pay off the DS first:)

    If I can get XP to run on it as it is while I'm reducing the outstanding
    balance on my credit card, then I'd prefer to get XP to run on it as it
    is, particularly if my dentist decides I need a crown on Tuesday...

    Helen

    Helen Edith Stephenson <helen at baronmoss dot demon dot co dot uk>
     
    Helen Edith Stephenson, Jan 8, 2005
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  12. This isn't something that I've picked up from the reviews I've seen of
    the DS. Maybe I should have been reading this group a month ago.

    Of course, a month ago I probably wouldn't have thought to ask exactly
    the right question, as a month ago I was still assuming that the only
    non-Win98 thing about the software was likely to be the USB 2.0 support,
    which turned out to be a wrong assumption.

    I did actually attempt to ask some questions about the software and
    Win98 but the people who work for camera shops didn't know the answers.

    Helen

    Helen Edith Stephenson <helen at baronmoss dot demon dot co dot uk>
     
    Helen Edith Stephenson, Jan 8, 2005
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  13. Helen Edith Stephenson

    Darrell Guest

    I am using Pentax Photo Browser, and Pentax Photo Laboratory in Win 98SE, I
    also have the Pentax plug-in for Photoshop. ThumbsPlus (Cerious Software)
    has aRAW plug-in that works for Thumbs Plus.
     
    Darrell, Jan 9, 2005
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  14. Helen Edith Stephenson

    Petros Guest

    Helen Edith Stephenson posted:
    It's a Pentium III. Can't remember if it's 500MHz or 550MHz. It seemed a
    lot at the time when I bought it back in 1998 or 1999!

    My other half wants me to buy a new case with motherboard and power
    supply already installed, and get a new processor, and then transfer the
    rest of my bits across, but I want to pay off the DS first:)

    If I can get XP to run on it as it is while I'm reducing the outstanding
    balance on my credit card, then I'd prefer to get XP to run on it as it
    is, particularly if my dentist decides I need a crown on Tuesday...

    Helen

    Helen Edith Stephenson <helen at baronmoss dot demon dot co dot uk>[/QUOTE]
    You might try to find a copy of W2k to install. It should work without
    problems.
     
    Petros, Jan 9, 2005
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  15. Helen Edith Stephenson

    JPS Guest

    In message <>,
    It is mainly the amount of RAM and the available hard disk space that
    you need to concern yourself with. The CPU won't be any slower running
    WinXP than Win98. It is only for running calculation-intensive programs
    that you want the faster CPUs, regardless of the operating system. If
    you're going to be working with RAW files, that is reason alone to get a
    faster CPU; you might wait 5 seconds instead of 30 for a RAW file to
    develop.
    --
     
    JPS, Jan 9, 2005
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  16. Good thought. I use W2K at work, so I feel comfortable with that. My
    other half uses XP, but he upgraded his PC about the time he put XP on
    and has a faster processor than I do. I've got 512MB of RAM, though.

    Helen

    Helen Edith Stephenson <helen at baronmoss dot demon dot co dot uk>
     
    Helen Edith Stephenson, Jan 9, 2005
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  17. Interesting. I thought my Win98 was 98SE, but it definitely doesn't run
    for me due to the missing method(s) in Share32.dll - maybe I should go
    searching the Microsoft site to see whether there's anything on there
    about Share32.dll upgrades.

    Helen

    Helen Edith Stephenson <helen at baronmoss dot demon dot co dot uk>
     
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  18. Helen Edith Stephenson

    John Bean Guest

    I used W2k for years at work but I resisted using it at home for image
    processing. After we upgraded to XP at work I also upgraded from 98 to XP on
    my home PC and wondered why I hadn't done it sooner. Is it *really* worth
    the hassle of jumping through hoops to install a "new" five year old OS?
     
    John Bean, Jan 9, 2005
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  19. :>
    :>I don't know what kind of PC your still using with Win98, but you may
    :>need to take a hard and honest look at upgrading the PC itself, as WinXP
    :>doesn't play nice with under-powered CPUs.
    :
    : It's a Pentium III. Can't remember if it's 500MHz or 550MHz. It seemed a
    : lot at the time when I bought it back in 1998 or 1999!

    If you have enough RAM (256megs, I'd recommend as a bare minimum), that's
    enough power to get XP running comfortably.

    I have Win2K Pro running on 3 different systems here at my house with PII
    450s. But each machine has 384 megs or more of RAM. Not super-powered,
    but they get the job done without a lot of fuss.

    -Charles
     
    Charles Robinson, Jan 9, 2005
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  20. I've got 512MB RAM. I think. It could be more. I did a big RAM update a
    while ago.
    While a PC gets the job done, there's no point in upgrading it further.
    I'm a great believer in "if it aint broke, don't fix it".

    However, I've clearly reached a point at which there is a clear benefit
    to an upgrade.

    I might solve the problem of my parallel flatbed scanner by reattaching
    it to my old Win95 PC. Everything else should be capable of running
    under XP if I do the work and find the drivers.

    Helen

    Helen Edith Stephenson <helen at baronmoss dot demon dot co dot uk>
     
    Helen Edith Stephenson, Jan 9, 2005
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