Osprey returning to nest with dinner

http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4947_1024.jpg

http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4950_1024.jpg

 

Nice, esp. the first one (other than the cropped wing tip).

 

I hope the speakers don't keep the chicks up.

 

Nice capture. The first is a strong image. Shame the speakers get in the
way. They make the shot ineligible as a PSA nature shot. Cloning them
out would make the first a lot stronger, but if you decide to play,
don't enter the image in a PSA competition.

 

: On 8/5/2012 11:22 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
: > On 2012-08-05 10:21 , me wrote:
: >> http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4947_1024.jpg
: >>
: >> http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4950_1024.jpg
: >
: > Nice, esp. the first one (other than the cropped wing tip).
: >
:
: Nice capture. The first is a strong image. Shame the speakers get in the
: way. They make the shot ineligible as a PSA nature shot. Cloning them
: out would make the first a lot stronger, but if you decide to play,
: don't enter the image in a PSA competition.

I don't understand that. I'm guessing that nobody told the ospreys to build
their nest there. So why is it less natural than if it were in a tree or on a
rock outcropping? It's probably a pretty good location: good visibility and
easy to defend from all but airborne predators.

Bob

 

I don't agree with that rule either. PSA is in transition, as are camera
clubs. IIRC Tony Cooper's camera club only permits extensive editing in
their creative category. My CC permits any amount of editing.

 

If the PSA rules are in transition, no slack in the area of
manipulation is apparent: "In the interest of credibility,
photographs that misrepresent the truth, such as manipulation to alter
the subject matter, or situations which are set up for the purpose of
photography, are unacceptable in Photojournalism competition. No
elements may be moved, cloned, added, deleted, rearranged or combined.
No manipulation or modification is permitted except resizing,
sharpening, cropping, selective lightening or darkening, and
restoration or original color of the scene. No special effect filters
can be applied. Any adjustments must appear natural."

The top image - http://edwardgruf.com/_DSC4947_1024.jpg would be
accepted in the Color (non-creative) category at my CC with the
speaker on the left cropped out of the image and the speaker on the
right cloned out. That wouldn't be considered to be a change that
significantly alters the image. If that fish in osprey's claws was
from another image, that would be a clear example of significant
alteration.

I can't see anyone submitting the other image for competition or
bothering to do a lot of post on it. It's a good catch for the
photographer, but it's not a competition-worthy image.

 

Do you mean something like this?

 

So would cloning out the speakers.
When i made my comment, I was referring to the Nature Division, which
currently has rules similar to those in the PJ division.
The rule revisions referred to are related to the extent of permissible
adjustments for exposure compensation, sharpness and blurring. I have
heard noting about reality changes.

 

In my younger days I would try to keep the chick up all night, if possible.
Wait, Oh! you mean THAT kind of chick.

 

"Keep...up all night"; surely not!

 

I don't think you read my comment with understanding. I said that a)
PSA has not relaxed the rules on cloning, but, b) my camera club's
competitions would accept a version with the left speaker cropped out
(no requirement for a standard ratio) and a clone of the right speaker
(as the Duck did).

The club rules are pretty much on the honor system. If the submitter
doesn't think he/she significantly altered, it would pass.

 

..

Then I certainly misunderstood, or forgot your statement about your
club. However, the PSA now has a creative category that allows only
images with "altered reality."

There recently was a sick situation in another club, where a member
submitted work that was not his, in a national competition. He would
have been ranked the top shooter on LI, but was stripped of all his
winnings. I call it "sick" because the grand prize was about $250.


agreed.

 

Well it now takes me all night to do once, what I used to do all night.
(Journalistic latitude taken.)

 

Damn! Are these CC fuddy-duddies trying to take the fun out of PS?
< http://db.tt/P4xMpAXa >

 

No! They are trying to evolve. I'v repeated a prior link. We would not
have to wait for the reality of your image to submit it in the proper
PSA category.

Well Done Image BTW, though the cloud on the right side is distracting.

<http://www.psa-photo.org/divisions/cpid/individual-creative-comp/>

 

I didn't think they ate fish.

 

Hell! They'll eat anything.

 

One of the vernacular names for the osprey is the "fish hawk".

A-

 

You did look at the link?