[QUOTE]\nIn all 50 States EMTs are State licensed,[/QUOTE]\n\nYes, my son is a certified EMT. He had that certification before\nadvancing to a Paramedic certification.\n[QUOTE]\nand have to meet the required\nlicensing standards. Naturally where fire departments take on the\nresponsibilities of first responders their members volunteer or\nprofessional have to meet those standard to gain their paramedic/EMT\ncertification and corresponding licence. \n\nThere is information available regarding Paramedic/EMTs in NZ, and it\nseems those following that career path in NZ are highly trained and\nprofessional: [/QUOTE]\n\nWhat you and Floyd don't seem to understand that "ER" (Emergency Room)\nis a term that is used in the US but not necessarily used in other\ncountries. In the UK, the term is not used. In the UK, what we call\nthe ER is "Casualty".\n\nThere are web references to "ED"s (Emergency Departments) in NZ, but\nit's unclear (to me)in reading the material if they mean a designated\narea where patients are first seen as we have in the US with our ERs,\nor if it means the departmental structure.\n\nIf Eric says he went directly to ICU, then I believe that Eric went\ndirectly to what is *called* the ICU in NZ, or was at the time he was\nadmitted. The *function* of what he's calling the ICU may be what the\n*function* of we'd call the ER is here.\n\nIn the US, the ICU (intensive care unit) is not - as you indicate -\nthe first stop in a hospital for the patient. ICU is basically where\nthe patient goes after receiving treatment or surgery in some other\ndepartment. That doesn't mean that the term has the same meaning in\nNZ.\n\nI think it's rather bizarre for a person in California and a person in\nAlaska to tell someone in New Zealand that he didn't do what he\ninsists he did when it's probably just a difference in terminology.\n\nAnd, you should know better. Both of you live in a country where\nterms and laws may be completely different if you step across a state\nline.