OT: iOS7 Sucks

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Dudley Hanks, Sep 23, 2013.

  1. Dudley Hanks

    Dudley Hanks Guest

    Apple's incarnation of Windows Vista?

    I've gone through a lot of operating system upgrades / overhauls,
    but I've never seen this many screwups in one piece of software
    ....

    Can't say I'm surprised ...

    Take Care,
    Dudley
     
    Dudley Hanks, Sep 23, 2013
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  2. Dudley Hanks

    Guest Guest

    trolling again, i see.

    ios 7 adoption is very high and already on a majority of ios devices in
    just a few days, way the hell more than vista ever did.

    most people are happy with it, but like everything, you can't please
    everyone.
    yet you use windows.

    nobody forced you to upgrade.

    there are some issues, but overall, there aren't all that many. some of
    those will get fixed.

    meanwhile, there are a lot of advantages, but i'm sure you haven't
    explored any of them yet since all you like to do is bitch about apple.
    of course you aren't, because you hate apple.

    why don't you sell the ipad and get an android tablet.

    except you might find it's not really any better there.
     
    Guest, Sep 23, 2013
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  3. Dudley Hanks

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Is stating that he dislikes an Apple product trolling? If so, he
    certainly hooked you.
    How do you know that? Are you trolling? Or, did you do one of your
    famous market surveys? What indication do you have about what "most
    people" feel?
    If he bought an Apple product, one wonders if he truly hates Apple.
    No better is better?
     
    Tony Cooper, Sep 23, 2013
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  4. Dudley Hanks

    Dudley Hanks Guest


    So far, I've heard WAY more negative feedback than the 2
    people I've heard who like ios7.

    From my standpoint, the software can't even stay focused when
    VoiceOver is being used.

    Either it focuses on the status bar, or goes back to the home
    screen when it should be still in an app (doesn't matter
    whether it's an Apple app or third party).

    There are even apps that won't start unless I use Siri to
    kickstart them.

    Tch, tch,tch ...

    REALLY poor work from the genius of Apple ...


    Take Care,
    Dudley
     
    Dudley Hanks, Sep 23, 2013
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  5. Dudley Hanks

    Guest Guest

    nope. but when you start off a post with "apple's incarnation of
    windows vista" it's trolling.

    had he said "i don't like ios 7, here's why", it would not be trolling.
    there have been a lot of articles about ios 7 over the past week or so.
    read his posts.
    what is that supposed to mean?
     
    Guest, Sep 23, 2013
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  6. Dudley Hanks

    Guest Guest

    because that's all you want to hear.

    you don't want to hear that people actually like apple products.

    they aren't perfect, and ios 7 has some issues.

    but you didn't come here wanting to talk about the issues and what
    remedies there might be.

    you want to troll.
    it doesn't go back to the home screen all by itself. you had to have
    done something to go to the homescreen.
    such as what apps?

    if an app won't start without siri, then something is broken. that's
    not how it is supposed to work.

    if you were really interested in fixing it, you would say what apps
    they are, what you did and what happened.

    but you aren't interested in getting it fixed. you just want to rant.
    get an android tablet. do it tomorrow.
     
    Guest, Sep 23, 2013
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  7. Dudley Hanks

    Dudley Hanks Guest

    Dudley
    because that's all you want to hear.

    you don't want to hear that people actually like apple
    products.

    they aren't perfect, and ios 7 has some issues.


    but you didn't come here wanting to talk about the issues and
    what
    remedies there might be.

    you want to troll.
    it doesn't go back to the home screen all by itself. you had
    to have
    done something to go to the homescreen.


    If you call clicking on a button "doing something," then yes,
    I did something. But, the buttons I've clicked on in apps
    haven't been labelled "Exit."

    I think the technical term for this is "bug."


    such as what apps?

    Humourously, the appstore is one. If I try to start it by
    double-clicking it, it won't start, but it starts if I say, "
    Siri, start appstore."

    Really quite funny. It doesn't exactly put me in the mood for
    buying more apps... :)


    if an app won't start without siri, then something is broken.
    that's
    not how it is supposed to work.

    NS, you're a genius!!!

    Can we call this a bug?


    if you were really interested in fixing it, you would say what
    apps
    they are, what you did and what happened.


    It would take too long to list 'em all.

    But, here's one ...

    In NewsTap, I end up back at the home screen whenever I try to
    start a new post. I can reply to one that's already started,
    but I can't start a new one.

    What did I do?

    I clicked on the button to start a new post and ended up back
    at the home screen ... several times ... and after several
    reboots ...

    Can you say "bug"?


    but you aren't interested in getting it fixed. you just want
    to rant.


    True, I want to rant ... ;) I tend to rant when I spend
    several hundred dollars for a piece of highly touted hardware
    and then have it screwed up a couple of weeks later ... after
    the first upgrade to its software ...

    And, judging from the folks I follow on Facebook, Twitter, etc,
    I'm not the only one ranting ... :)

    get an android tablet. do it tomorrow.

    Why? That won't get me my money back ...

    But, your attitude is typical of the Apple mindset ... "We're
    perfect ... We're geniuses ... We're Apple!! And, if you
    don't like it, get lost ...

    Great customer service ...

    Makes the way Microsoft handled Vista look absolutely top
    notch ... ;)

    Take Care,
    Dudley
     
    Dudley Hanks, Sep 23, 2013
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    David Taylor Guest

    Agreed, and you can't roll back either. Apple fans don't, in general,
    agree, though.

    (I use iOS and Android)
     
    David Taylor, Sep 23, 2013
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  9. Dudley Hanks

    Guest Guest

    there aren't any exit buttons in apps.

    if you press the home button, you go to the home screen.

    if you don't do that, you don't.

    it's possible that an app can crash and then you go to the home screen
    when you don't expect to, but that's an app crashing. apps that crash
    normally get fixed.

    ios 7 has been out for 5 days and not all apps are fully ios 7
    compatible yet.

    it's not possible for every single app to be updated in 5 days.
    everything has bugs.
    that's not normal.

    take it to an apple store and have them diagnose it.

    assuming you want to fix it, that is.
    it is, but it is *not* affecting everyone. something is wrong with your
    setup.

    the app store works for everyone i know, including myself and they're
    all downloading dozens of updates to apps.
    bullshit it would.
    you used an app that isn't ios 7 compatible yet.

    that's not apple's fault.
    the app crashed. contact the developer with a bug report.
    everything has bugs.
    nobody forced you to upgrade, and what you described is not apple's
    fault.
    people rant about any change.

    any time a web site changes its look, people rant. any time a grocery
    store rearranges their items, people rant. when the weather changes,
    people rant. that's what people do.

    apple's servers were horribly overloaded last week, and a lot of what
    people were bitching about was that. some of it was about the dramatic
    changes in ios 7. not everyone was expecting it.

    people don't like change. that's just how it is.
    because you aren't happy with it or the company and you an sell the
    ipad anyway.

    plus, ios 7 was free.
    more apple bashing. none of that is true, nor has it ever been.
    apple's customer service is consistently rated the highest.
    in fact, it does.
     
    Guest, Sep 23, 2013
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  10. Dudley Hanks

    Guest Guest

    it's been that way since ios 4. i don't know why, but that's how it is.
    not just apple fans, and many apple fans aren't totally thrilled either.

    there are definitely some problems with ios 7, but it's nowhere near as
    bad as he claims. as i said, some of the issues will be fixed.

    the others you'll just have to get used to, or switch products. android
    isn't perfect either.
    me too.
     
    Guest, Sep 23, 2013
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    Sandman Guest

    Great list of examples, I agree with pretty much every single
    well-formulated point you raised.
     
    Sandman, Sep 23, 2013
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  12. Dudley Hanks

    Sandman Guest

    You start apps on a smart phone by *DOUBLE CLICKING* them?? Wtf?
     
    Sandman, Sep 23, 2013
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  13. Dudley Hanks

    Dudley Hanks Guest


    Ideally, I'd agree with you. But, when I click the button to
    start a new post in NewsTap, I end up at the home screen. And,
    that button IS NOT labelled "Home."
    That's so comforting ...

    I'd say Apple and its developers have a lot of fixing to do ...

    I've already installed the NewsTap upgrade ... Next excuse???



    With proper planning, Apple would have informed its developers
    of changes they'd need to make to end up with compatible apps,
    and given them sufficient time to make the changes prior to
    rolling out the ios7 implementation.

    Obviously, there's been some rather serious glitches in the
    process ...>
    Buggy apples, now there's a pretty picture ... ;)

    I don't intend to purchase any more apps, so I'll wait for an
    upgrade or two to see if the geniuses at Apple can figure it
    out and provide a patch.

    But, don't worry, I've already given there techies an ear-full
    ....

    At this point, I really don't care. Apple's lost me as a
    customer, unless they do a really great job of damage control .
    ...

    But, I'm not holding my breath ...

    Gee, I'm a blind user, using the VoiceOver system, and you're
    surprised that I'm using a different configuration than others?
    ?

    Clearly, this is a bug that indicates your much vaunted Apple
    commitment to providing support for blind users just doesn't
    run as deep as you thought ...

    Once again, I'm not surprised ... ;)

    Kind of makes your claims in previous posts seem rather ill-
    informed, would you not say??

    Any of them blind? Using VoiceOver?? And a bluetooth
    keyboard to bypass the touchscreen???

    NS, give your head a shake ...

    Actually, it is ... The upgrade's been installed ...


    And, like I pointed out above, Apple should have given its
    developers enough developmental support for its developers to
    make the switchover seemless ...
    Aw, NS, were you not touting the "improvements" to iOS7 for
    blind users??? As recently as a week or so back???


    You seemed to think it would solve every blind person's access
    problems with Apple devices...

    And some rant in defense of screwups ... ;)

    But, you just said, a post or two back, that most people "
    liked" the changes; now you say Apple's servers were
    overloaded with complaints??

    Which way is it? Are most people happy, or are there so many
    pissed off pee-ons that Apple's servers can't keep up???


    You're not looking like a well-informed, up-to-date Apple
    patron...
    Naw, it's MUCH more fun to bitch and complain in public forums
    and annoy Apple die-hards like you.

    I've got my Wintel tools to get the heavy lifting done.


    Like I've always said, Apple is more toy than tool, and this
    fiasco is proving it ... :)


    Even at free, the "cost" is too high ...>
    Really, than why is it such a widespread perception ...


    That just proves that Apple routinely sells to a bunch of
    zealots who wouldn't know a toy from a tool if one dropped
    into their hands ... They're just happy to have some out-
    dated technology in a pretty, slim package to play with ...
    until now ... ios7 might be too much even for these pitiful
    souls ...
    Oooh, the first bit of honesty I think I've ever heard from
    you ... are you a little ticked with Apple too??? ;)


    Take Care,
    Dudley
     
    Dudley Hanks, Sep 23, 2013
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  14. Dudley Hanks

    Dudley Hanks Guest


    Sorry, I should have said double-tap ...

    A hold-over from my normal working vocabulary ...


    Actually, I use a bluetooth keyboard as my main interface, and
    there is a two-key combo that is used to double-tap (or
    activate) apps ...

    Take Care,
    Dudley
     
    Dudley Hanks, Sep 23, 2013
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    Savageduck Guest

    I upgraded my iPhone 4S to iOS7, and while some of the OS functions are
    improvements and some take some getting used to, I am not particularly
    happy with the appearance. For my taste, the Jon Ive design
    simplification philosophy does not translate well to the graphics and
    font selection.

    My iPad2 I have chosen to leave at iOS6.1.3. Perhaps in an ideal world
    I would like to have iOS7 functionality with an iOS6 skin. For now I
    will just try to overcome my dislike for the new appearance while I
    become more familiar with the new, and wax nostalgic with iOS6 on my
    iPad.

    I can see why the change would be difficult for a vision impaired
    person to deal with, particularly since there have been some big
    changes to accessing functions such as "Control Center", "Spotlight",
    and a few others which are now very different.
     
    Savageduck, Sep 23, 2013
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  16. Dudley Hanks

    Savageduck Guest

    This might give a bit of guidance for those struggling with some of the
    changes with iOS7.
    < http://www.macstories.net/roundups/ios-7-tips-tricks-and-details/ >
     
    Savageduck, Sep 23, 2013
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  17. Dudley Hanks

    Sandman Guest

    Sorry, I should have said double-tap ...

    A hold-over from my normal working vocabulary ...[/QUOTE]

    That doesn't make things any clearer - why would you double tap them?
    ???
     
    Sandman, Sep 23, 2013
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    Savageduck Guest

    That doesn't make things any clearer - why would you double tap them?[/QUOTE]

    A single touch opens apps on my iPhone 4S (iOS7) & my iPad2 (iOS6).
     
    Savageduck, Sep 23, 2013
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    Sandman Guest

    A single touch opens apps on my iPhone 4S (iOS7) & my iPad2 (iOS6).[/QUOTE]

    As it does on any iOS device, any version. Or any Android device. Or any
    Windows Phone device, or any Blackberry device.
     
    Sandman, Sep 23, 2013
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  20. Dudley Hanks

    Guest Guest

    you don't double-tap an app either.

    you tap once to launch an app.
    there may be a two-key combo to launch apps, but it's *not* a
    double-tap.
     
    Guest, Sep 23, 2013
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