OT: iOS7 Sucks

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Dudley Hanks, Sep 23, 2013.

  1. Dudley Hanks

    Savageduck Guest

    Then don't look at them, I don't.
    You already have a calendar & reminder app on both iDevices.
    If you don't need a compass, you don't need a compass, but you already
    have one on both iDevices if the need should ever arise.
    Never say never. ;-)

    Consider adding Dropbox to both your iPhone & iPad.
    < https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dropbox/id327630330?mt=8 >

    Also, since you use SmugMug, you might want to add their free app to
    your iPad and try it. All your SmugMug galleries will be available. If
    you don't like it you can trash it. It's free.

    As a photographer I think you would enjoy "Guardian Eyewitness" &/or
    "500px" both free.
    < https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/smugmug/id364894061?mt=8 >
    < https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-guardian-eyewitness/id363993651?mt=8 >
    < https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/500px/id471965292?mt=8 >

    ....and if you ever need a light meter add "Fotometer Pro" to your iPhone.
    < https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fotometerpro/id439913393?mt=8 >

    Note: I didn't suggest any games, video apps, or mindless stuff like
    that, or many of the apps I have which probably are of no interest to
    That said, there are some apps such as "TED", "Flipboard", and for you
    Floridians, "iHurricane" which can be thought provoking with their
    content. I also check several newspapers via my iPad.

    < https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ted/id376183339?mt=8 >
    < https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/flipboard-your-social-news/id358801284?mt=8 >
    < https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/hurricane-pro/id291430598?mt=8 >
    Savageduck, Sep 24, 2013
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  2. Dudley Hanks

    David Taylor Guest

    On 23/09/2013 22:26, Alan Browne wrote:
    Talking of which, has anyone found a way to make exposure adjustments -
    up or down by a stop or two? Exposure compensation. My Android cameras
    have this but not the iPad, sigh! Apple knows the best exposure and
    doesn't want you altering it?
    David Taylor, Sep 24, 2013
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  3. Dudley Hanks

    Savageduck Guest

    The only camera app I have found which gives a degree of adjustability
    is "Slow Shutter" for long exposures, but then that is going to give
    some interesting effects.
    "ProCamera" is quite interesting as is "Top Camera", both do a reasonable job.
    < https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/slow-shutter!/id616728746?mt=8 >
    < https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/procamera-7/id694647259?mt=8 >
    Savageduck, Sep 24, 2013
  4. Dudley Hanks

    Tony Cooper Guest

    They're hard to miss. When I go the App Store app, and scroll down,
    it's game after game.
    I get up in the morning, read the newspaper (a real one) on the porch
    with my coffee, and then come into this room and check my mail and the
    newsgroups and forums I follow on my desktop. I don't even pick up
    the phone until I'm ready to leave the house. Any appointment I have
    would be missed by the time I look at my phone.
    I have an iPad folder on C:, copy photos that I want to carry around
    to that folder, and synch with the iPad when I have it plugged in to
    charge it. I suppose there's something wrong about using system since
    it uses files/folders, but it works OK for me.

    I may add Dropbox.
    SmugMug, as you may know, revised everyone's layout recently. No
    choice to user. I haven't revised my site to conform. I'm currently
    pissed off at them. Besides, I don't have a data plan with the iPad
    so have to be somewhere with a wi-fi connection to use it for SmugMug.
    Tony Cooper, Sep 24, 2013
  5. Dudley Hanks

    David Taylor Guest

    Yes, I have Slow Shutter possibly after a recommendation from your good
    self, although I haven't used it much. Are you saying that ProCamera or
    Top Camera /do/ allow control of exposure? I read it as not.

    Again, something useful Apple could have added in iOS-7, but did not.
    David Taylor, Sep 24, 2013
  6. Dudley Hanks

    Savageduck Guest

    You should.
    Then teach them a lesson, and don't use them.
    Do you have a data plan with your iPhone?

    If so, you can use your iPhone as a "Personal Hotspot" for your iPad,
    or laptop. That is what I do when I have my iPad away from my home
    Wi-Fi network and don't have a free hotspot nearby. My iPad2 is
    3G+Wi-Fi, and as yet I have not bought a block of data broadband from
    Verizon. Maybe if I take a trip with it.
    So, on your iPhone, go to settings > "Personal Hotspot", then follow
    the instructions for connecting it one of three ways, Wi-Fi, BlueTooth,
    or USB. I connect with my iPad via Wi-Fi when using my iPhone Personal
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_304.jpg >

    BTW: iBooks on both iDevices is a good way to keep manuals and guides
    handy. If you don't have the iBooks app installed, that is one you
    could download. Then you can get the free "iPhone User Guide For iOS 7"
    & "iPad User Guide For iOS 7". I have several Nikon & Canon manuals
    stashed there.

    < https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ibooks/id364709193?mt=8 >
    Get the free User guides from the iBooks Store.
    Savageduck, Sep 24, 2013
  7. Dudley Hanks

    Savageduck Guest

    I believe PeterM has been playing with it, I have just examined it, but
    I have yet to put it to a real test.
    Not really. However, they have some interesting tweaks and adjustments
    to make some shots which would be tough with the basic camera.

    If you shoot any video with your iPhone "Videon" is a great improvement
    over the basic camera. I am no videographer, but I have found it
    convenient to have the iPhone handy when an opportunity arises.
    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/videon-video-camera-zoom-filters/id648862644?mt=8An opportunistic capture of a local hummingbird swarm.
    < https://db.tt/ppiBIL15 >
    Savageduck, Sep 24, 2013
  8. Dudley Hanks

    Guest Guest

    you're not a typical compass user.

    most people don't even know what the difference is between magnetic and
    true north and apple didn't design their compass app for precise
    navigation anyway. it's basically to show off the fact there's a
    compass in the phone.

    adding the option to the app would just clutter it up for the few users
    who might want to switch it.

    for those who want a better compass app, there are many options.
    Guest, Sep 24, 2013
  9. Dudley Hanks

    Guest Guest

    he lied about what he did. that puts him squarely in the troll
    category, by your definition.

    had he said "i just updated to ios7 and some apps are crashing. how do
    i fix this?", it would have been a very, very different thread.
    over 200 million users have installed it so far, with mostly positive
    reactions. ask any ios developer.

    there is a vocal minority who doesn't like some of the user interface
    changes, but that's what normally happens when anyone makes major

    there is a lot of new technology under the hood, which they aren't
    complaining about because they either aren't aware of it or they don't
    get the soundbites and linkbait.
    wrong. over half the user base had upgraded as of a couple of days ago.
    now it's even higher. that qualifies as 'most'.
    that is true sometimes, but not in this case.
    Guest, Sep 24, 2013
  10. Dudley Hanks

    Guest Guest

    games are by far, the biggest category of apps.

    that's what sells, so that's what they highlight.

    nothing stops you from browsing a different category or searching by
    keyword or name or whatever other way you want to find apps.
    Guest, Sep 24, 2013
  11. Dudley Hanks

    Guest Guest

    more bullshit and yet another example of when apple does something it's
    bad but when anyone else does it, no problem.

    the camera app in my android phone doesn't have much by way of exposure
    control. where's the 'google knows best' rants? there aren't any.

    when nikon makes a camera that doesn't let you adjust settings, as they
    do on some of their low end cameras, nobody says nikon doesn't want you
    to change anything either.

    yet when apple makes a camera app that doesn't have every possible
    feature that anyone could ever want, people bitch and moan how apple
    wants to control you, apple knows best, apple forbids you to do things,
    blah blah blah.

    do people really expect the built in apps to be the perfect app for
    everyone in all situations? why have an app store?

    apple targets the masses, not the photo enthusiast, so the camera app
    is designed for that demographic. it doesn't have a zillion features
    that most people would never use or even understand. typical users want
    to shoot photos and get good results, not tweak settings, and that's
    what happens.

    for those who want more control, there are zillions of other camera
    apps with a wide variety of features.

    nobody is stopping anyone from creating such apps or downloading them
    after having been created. claiming 'apple knows best' is complete
    Guest, Sep 24, 2013
  12. Dudley Hanks

    Guest Guest

    it's not for them to add.

    if apple added every feature everyone wanted, there would be no reason
    for an app store.
    Guest, Sep 24, 2013
  13. Dudley Hanks

    David Taylor Guest

    On 24/09/2013 07:57, Savageduck wrote:
    Thanks, again, for the comments on the camera programs.

    It's an iPad here, so inconvenient enough for taking photos (unless
    slowing one down is a good thing! <G>), let alone videos! Checking
    back, I seem to have kept just two or three videos from my 3? years of
    owning an iPad. Does Videon do image rotation? It wasn't obvious from
    the description on the App Store - that just shows what's new, rather
    than the full capabilities.
    David Taylor, Sep 24, 2013
  14. Dudley Hanks

    David Taylor Guest

    So where is the alternative keyboard in the App Store with this feature?
    David Taylor, Sep 24, 2013
  15. Dudley Hanks

    David Taylor Guest

    So exposure compensation isn't worth having> (avoiding your unnecessary
    It's an option - you don't need exposure compensation, but it's very
    handy to have. Mine has +/- 2 stops, better than the lack of anything
    from Apple.
    All cameras I've owned have exposure compensation, and the price of the
    iPad is definitely not "low-end".

    Perhaps you might care to point to a suitable program which does offer
    exposure compensation? As a photographer, you will appreciate the value
    of such a function.
    David Taylor, Sep 24, 2013
  16. Dudley Hanks

    Guest Guest

    for most people, no.

    those who want exposure control can get an app that offers it.

    apple isn't prohibiting apps from offering exposure control. far from

    also keep in mind that you can tap on an area to focus & meter, which
    works for most situations.
    there are zillions of camera apps. certainly one (or more) of those has
    the features you want.

    just because the built in camera app doesn't do everything doesn't mean
    apple blocks it from happening. apple doesn't have to write the perfect
    camera app that fits everyone's needs. if they did, they'd never get
    anything else done. they wrote a camera app that's good enough for most
    situations and developers can write apps for more sophisticated needs.
    you're comparing two different product categories.
    personally, the built-in camera app is more than adequate. i've tried a
    bunch of other camera apps and i keep going back to the built in one.

    when i use the iphone camera, i'm not intending to screw around with
    exposure control or anything else. i want a quick snapshot, and that's
    exactly what i get. i'm glad i don't have to adjust stuff.

    if i want to have more control, i use an slr. that has *far* more
    control than any smartphone app is ever going to offer. it's also a lot
    less convenient, so i don't take it with me all the time.

    i've tried a few camera apps that have ways to adjust focus and
    exposure independently (apple's does both together), which can be
    useful in some situations, but i found that i never actually needed to
    do that, so the extra app was just clutter.
    Guest, Sep 24, 2013
  17. Dudley Hanks

    Guest Guest

    So where is the alternative keyboard in the App Store with this feature?[/QUOTE]

    you were talking about the camera app and how it doesn't allow exposure

    there are *lots* of camera apps, with a wide variety of features.
    certainly there is one that fits your needs. if not, explain what you
    want and maybe someone will write it.

    as for the keyboard, apps can add additional keys to the existing
    keyboard, and many apps do.

    however, developers can't replace the keyboard entirely. this is a
    security issue, because a replacement keyboard could potentially log
    keystrokes or other not so good things.
    Guest, Sep 24, 2013
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    David Taylor Guest

    On 24/09/2013 11:15, nospam wrote:
    I'm disappointed that having said there was the app store, that you
    can't back that up with an actual product.
    David Taylor, Sep 24, 2013
  19. Dudley Hanks

    Sandman Guest

    I'm disappointed that having said there was the app store, that you
    can't back that up with an actual product.[/QUOTE]

    Why should nospam, who has made it clear that he is not looking for such
    a product, research it for you? He correctly pointed out that there are
    many camera apps in the App Store, and said he had use at least one of
    them (which doesn't do what you wanted, anyway). If you want to know
    what app he used, ask him. If you want to know what app that gives you
    the functionality you are asking for - do the research yourself. There
    is a search function in the App Store.
    Sandman, Sep 24, 2013
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    Whisky-dave Guest

    Whisky-dave, Sep 24, 2013
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