OT: iOS7 Sucks

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Dudley Hanks, Sep 23, 2013.

  1. Dudley Hanks

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Yes, mine has been doing that for several months. There hasn't been a
    whole lot of interest, but some of the images have been very, very
    Tony Cooper, Sep 24, 2013
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  2. Dudley Hanks

    PeterN Guest

    Do you know the definition of the word: "implied?"
    PeterN, Sep 24, 2013
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  3. Dudley Hanks

    PeterN Guest

    Yup! that works too. But I can also do rough editing.
    PeterN, Sep 24, 2013
  4. Dudley Hanks

    PeterN Guest

    Proof of what claim. Quote the claim that lacks substantiation, please.
    Here is the only claim I can find:

    "there are zillions of camera apps. certainly one (or more) of those
    has the features you want."

    The "zillions" is a clear exaggeration (since it's a made up number),
    the rest of the sentence says that nospam is certain that there are apps
    that fits his need (in fact, "certainly" and "I'm certain" isn't
    analogous - "certainly" means he has a strong belief that it is true).

    So there has been no claim that there ARE such apps, so what proof is
    Implications doesn't require proof, Peter. Explicit claims does.
    Implications are suggestive references to something, not explicit claims.
    In the context of the discussion, the statement was not in the least bit
    helpful. With so many galaxies, there must be life similar to ours.
    There may even be a parallel universe.
    Now back to "helpful" photo discussions.
    PeterN, Sep 24, 2013
  5. Dudley Hanks

    PeterN Guest

    For you to call anyone a nitpicker is laughable.
    PeterN, Sep 24, 2013
  6. Dudley Hanks

    Guest Guest

    how about using a keyword relevant to what you want?

    for cameras, try 'camera' or 'photo' or 'video'. for navigation, try
    'gps' or 'driving' or 'navigation'. for solitaire (and yes i know you
    don't do games), use 'solitaire' or 'klondike' or 'freecell'.

    or look at the top 100 apps and see if anything looks interesting. they
    are in the top 100 for a reason.

    it's really very easy.
    Guest, Sep 24, 2013
  7. Dudley Hanks

    Guest Guest

    because they're in the loop with users.
    not what i said at all.
    nothing convinces you of anything, facts or otherwise.
    if it's not bad enough to complain, then they did just fine. people are
    far more motivated to complain than they are to say "yea it's nice".
    bullshit. *all* of the iphones were sold to consumers. every single one
    of them. only an idiot would claim there is unsold stock.

    yes, many phones were sold to carriers, but the carriers sold *all* of
    those to users. the carriers aren't sitting on a warehouse of phones.
    there were long lines at the apple store but there were *also* lines at
    the carrier's stores.

    why would the carriers sit on a stash of phones when there are millions
    of users wanting one who don't want to wait for 'october' which is what
    apple is now quoting?

    it's just another analyst talking out his ass. it's stupid on its face.
    you don't even need to think too hard to see how ludicrous it is.
    nobody forced anyone to upgrade. not everyone knew about the changes
    but many did.

    vista never hit 50% penetration. heck even windows 7 is barely that.
    windows xp *still* has a significant share (~30% i think).
    it has a lot of benefits. people are bitching about the new look, while
    ignoring the numerous benefits. the look is the first thing they see,
    and then they stop exploring for some reason.

    control center alone is worth the upgrade. that makes changing settings
    *much* more convenient.

    activation lock is another highly useful feature, so much so that the
    new york police department is requesting that people upgrade as soon as
    possible to combat iphone thefts, which is a huge problem in nyc (and

    notification sync is another useful feature, where responding to a
    notification on one device clears it on the others. no longer do you
    have to clear the same notification multiple times on each device (that
    really gets old, really fast).

    dynamic text is another, where the user can adjust the font size to
    their liking. the new app switcher with mini screenshots is far more
    useful. background app updating is long overdue.

    there are a lot of new apis that will be showing up in new apps, if
    they haven't already.

    there are some dumb things too. most of them are minor and some are
    likely to be fixed.
    he repeats the usual anti-apple myths that have long been proven wrong
    and even lies about what he did. he won't explain what it is he really
    wants to do so that people can offer ways to help him do it.

    he just wants to bash. that makes him a troll.
    Guest, Sep 24, 2013
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    As I have said before, I'm willing to move forward *but* only when *I*
    see the need or benefit to do so. Peter seems to be doing the same
    thing, and I see nothing wrong with that.

    This idea that one is still struggling in the primordial ooze just
    because one doesn't have every new gadget available is ridiculous.

    My son is not immune to this. The first thing he wanted me to add to
    my iPhone was music. He suggested some apps like Pandora.

    When I told him I'd tossed the ear buds that came with iPhone into a
    desk drawer and had no intention of using them, he shook his head in

    I like music, but not when walking around.
    Tony Cooper, Sep 24, 2013
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    Exactly. I'm punishing them. So far, they haven't noticed though.

    I just haven't set aside the hours to set up my site under the new
    format. I think they should have allowed an opt-out for those of us
    that thought the old layout was just fine.
    Oh, yeah. You can't upgrade, with AT&T, to a smart phone at the
    reduced price (99 cents for the iPhone4S) of any kind without agreeing
    to a data plan. I assume other carriers are the same, but I don't
    Tony Cooper, Sep 24, 2013
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    Guest Guest

    you should know by now that whether they're wrong or not does not mean
    they won't nitpick every word i happen to use, in a desperate attempt
    to find something to argue about.
    Guest, Sep 24, 2013
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    You are being particularly dense, here. There's no app that I know I
    "want". If I did want an app, and knew there is such an app, I could
    certainly find it.

    There are apps that might be interest, but I don't know what they are.
    I prefer to watch for recommendations and mentions by current users.
    The Duck, for example, has provided better information than I'd get in
    just scrolling.
    When they come out with an app that directs me to an old barn or other
    photographable subject, let me know. Otherwise, I don't mind driving
    around back roads looking for what might be a good shot.
    I didn't say it wasn't easy. I just said all I seem to see is a list
    of game apps that might interest a child, but not me.
    Tony Cooper, Sep 24, 2013
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    PeterN Guest

    On 9/24/2013 12:59 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:

    Agreed! But on an exercise bike or treadmill, it relieves the boredom.
    PeterN, Sep 24, 2013
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    PeterN Guest

    Try posting helpful information.
    PeterN, Sep 24, 2013
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    Guest Guest

    what things do you normally do? what kinds of apps do you have on your

    those are your keywords.
    there are plenty of adult games that would completely bore a child,
    including word puzzles and math puzzles.

    i like 7 little words, which has a new free puzzle every day, along
    with two free 50 word packs and several for purchase. it's like doing a
    crossword puzzle, but a lot less time. it's a pleasant way to kill a
    few minutes while waiting for a doctor's appointment or a bus or

    heck, there even are crossword puzzle apps but i'm not a crossword
    puzzle person.

    there are many other apps too, including mobile banking, exercise apps,
    news aggregator apps so you dont need to check multiple sites and lots

    there are some apps that work with lightroom libraries on a traditional
    computer, making it easier to go between the two, and many photo editor
    apps as well, although i prefer to do the editing on a traditional
    computer, although being able to do a simple change while out can be
    Guest, Sep 24, 2013
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    Guest Guest

    stop arguing and you'll see that i do.
    Guest, Sep 24, 2013
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    Sandman Guest

    In the context of the discussion, the statement was not in the least bit

    Which has absolutely *nothing* to do with your claim that proof was
    required, Peter.

    Why not just reply with "Oh, yeah, that's right, I didn't think about
    that" instead of hitting that reply button, then writing something
    *completely* irrelevant in what can only be a desperate attempt to
    misdirect from the fact that you had misunderstood.
    Sandman, Sep 24, 2013
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    Sandman Guest

    You quoted something in another post.[/QUOTE]

    I've quoted many things in the past. I haven't quoted an explicit claim
    from nospam that requires substantiation, however.
    Because you can't support your statement. Gotcha.
    Sandman, Sep 24, 2013
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    Sandman Guest

    you should know by now that whether they're wrong or not does not mean
    they won't nitpick every word i happen to use, in a desperate attempt
    to find something to argue about.[/QUOTE]

    I do, indeed.
    Sandman, Sep 24, 2013
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    Sandman Guest

    Try posting helpful information.[/QUOTE]

    So the absence of helpful information warrants making incorrect claims
    about his actions, Peter?

    When was the last time you made a post with helpful information? Am I to
    take it that for every post that you make that lacks helpful information
    I am free to make up things about you as well?
    Sandman, Sep 24, 2013
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    Sandman Guest

    Do you know the definition of the word: "implied?"[/QUOTE]

    Clearly you do not. An implication does not, I repeat: does NOT require

    I.e. if I say that you'd have to be stupid not to understand the meaning
    of the word "implication", then I am *implying* that you are stupid, yet
    I have not *claimed* that you are stupid, hence - I need not provide
    proof of your stupidity.
    Sandman, Sep 24, 2013
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