OT? Panasonic FZ20, first shots in low light

Discussion in 'Panasonic Lumix' started by Ryadia, Jun 17, 2005.

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    Chrlz Guest

    Largely OT, sorry.

    Douglas MacDonald
    Lack of education noted. Was spit flying from your lips as you uttered
    this completely ad hominem post? Again I should point out that the
    post you are clinging to, came from a TAFE computer. That's not the
    'department of unemployment'.. But if you want to hang onto your
    fantasy, just like your fantasy identities, by all means, have at it.
    Grammatical errors noted again. Your phenomenally witty retorts have
    been commented on by others here, so I won't bother further. Let's get
    back on topic - or do you, Douglas, purposely avoid addressing the real
    issues in *every* aspect of your life, and simply resort to groundless

    Prove me wrong - here are some questions for you to muse on, rather
    than avoid. I'll wager that all you can reply with are more insults
    befitting a 5-year old. Ah well, one can but try...

    1. Why is the exposure so poor on 'The house!' (another witty title
    there)? Can you not see the BLOWN highlights? How would/should a
    *real* photographer have handled this, either in-camera, or with
    post-processing? Was this in some way a particularly challenging shot?
    Was the light changing dramatically, or the house about to run away
    from you perhaps?

    2. What happened to the flower shots - the ones you have now removed
    from that page? Was it the blocked color problem, and the terrible
    blurring (almost certainly from camera shake) of the second one? Were
    they just too embarrassing, even for your standards?

    3. And where did that lovely self-portrait go? You know, the one with
    more blurring (this time from subject movement) and the clever, but
    *perhaps* just slightly overdone radial gradient, added to (no doubt
    deliberate, of course) heavy underexposure. All this in a studio shot,
    no less..

    4. Why did you first post this page as an example of low-light noise
    issues, when it had no such examples? And how do samples from a
    non-DSLR, with *no* attempt at comparison, somehow become relevant to a
    DSLR list?

    5. Is the shot of the Canon DSLR typical of your attention to detail in
    photography? (I think the answer is yes, see below for many examples)
    I particularly like the mouse lead coming out of the lens, the
    angled-desk-edge-vignetting-look, the hand, and odd desk objects
    scattered around, presumably for size reference...

    Yes, I am in *awe* of your talent, Doug. Your images are given such
    *careful*, *thoughtful* treatment, like this one:

    What a *master stroke* to wrap the pelican's beak right around the edge
    and over to the back! I would *never* have thought of doing that!!!

    Then there's:

    Almost a great shot, here - pity about the cropping again, and then
    there's all the bumps along the edge of the canvas wrap, beautifully
    exaggerated by the lighting which poorly illuminates over a third of
    the image - more of that attention to detail... Let's not even talk
    about getting things straight on - that is clearly your *style*..

    And then there's:

    It's not funny - it's just SAD.

    Yes, Doug, when I'm looking for work like this, with it's sheer glowing
    mastery of burnt highlights, poor exposure, almost laughably bad
    composition, and even camera shake (refer the last one - you managed to
    screw that one even in sunny daylight??) I'll think of you.

    Oh, and when are you going to post the results of your super-secret
    enlarging algorithm? We're all still waiting patiently. Everyone else
    who makes these claims manages it, but you..? Nope. Face it, you're
    just an old talentless windbag, Doug. Thankfully, there are enough
    people with low quality standards to keep *you* off the dole...

    I invite anyone who takes this person seriously to *go visit his
    website* at:

    Have a good look around, and think to yourself - this is his *best*
    work.... Also, do a group search on Ryadia, and in particular, examine
    the Enlarging Digital Images thread in this (..slr-systems) group if
    you want an amusing half-hour or so. How's Graham Hunt getting along,
    Douglas? I haven't seen many posts from him, or Joe Bailey, or One
    Million Pics, lately.. Still promoting your franchise with false

    Oh, and by the way, I've been off holidaying in Qld. I'll drop by on
    my next visit - see if you can spot me. And before you ask - yes, I
    had a great holiday, thanks. Funny how far my dole money goes, seeing
    as how I'm unemployed and all (- in your dreams at least).
    Chrlz, Jun 18, 2005
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    Bill Spanger Guest

    Some people are wound too tight, this is, after all, Usenet and no one important
    posts here and no one here is important.
    Bill Spanger, Jun 18, 2005
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    Paul H. Guest

    Dear God, just give it a rest!

    You, non-dSLR Camera Boy: please don't post OT messages. And you, Alan,
    please just shut the f--- up about it, OK?

    I suggest you guys write a joint autobiography entitled, "Waste of
    Bandwidth, Waste of Space". You can argue during the production meetings
    about which description goes with whom.
    Paul H., Jun 18, 2005
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    Alan Browne Guest

    I'll keep my own counsel, thank you.
    Alan Browne, Jun 18, 2005
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    Frank ess Guest

    Non sequitir.

    He asked you quite kindly, considering, for a favor.

    Frank ess, Jun 18, 2005
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Frank ess wrote:

    Alan Browne, Jun 18, 2005
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    Frank ess Guest

    Frank ess, Jun 18, 2005
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Frank ess wrote:

    I was having no issue with that person.
    Alan Browne, Jun 18, 2005
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    Ryadia Guest

    Wear a bullet proof vest arsehole.
    Anyway, they are unlikely to let insexts like you past the tic gates.
    Ryadia, Jun 20, 2005
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    Ryadia Guest

    Nothing. Not Photography nor peopl's opinion or anything else in this
    world is as important to Alan Browne as Alan Browne is.
    Ryadia, Jun 20, 2005
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    colinstone Guest

    I am well pleased with FZ20 low light shots and OIS is crisp and sharp
    at F2.8 1/4 sec. Great camera.
    colinstone, Jun 21, 2005
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