OT: Panasonic pandering

Discussion in 'Panasonic Lumix' started by Martin Francis, Nov 18, 2003.

  1. The new Pansonic DMC-LC1, to be released next spring, might seem a little
    odd next to the bulk of the current digital crop. It is, as with all
    Panasonics, equipped with a Leica Vario-Whatsit zoom lens (28-90 f2-2.4
    equiv), and has an unremarkable spec (ISO 100-400, 1/2000th max shutter, 5
    megapixels). It does have some interesting features, however; and these are
    why i'm posting this to r.p.e.35mm.

    It looks very much like a Leica.

    It has a lens with a manual zoom ring, and a manual focusing ring. It has a
    manual aperture ring, and shutter speeds are chosen via the dial on the top.
    Even the lens styling looks very much like an R lens.

    So given this new old-fangled styling, the obvious quality that the optics
    will have, and the huge amount of pandering Panasonic have done to the
    old-school film crowd, do you think this camera will be successful at
    bringing 35mm users over to digital? Or given that it is such an
    unremarkable spec'd camera, will it be just another camera left in the dust
    of the high megapixel cameras?

    How about if I tell you it will also be released with a Leica badge?

    (I also saw it mentioned in the UK magazine Amateur Photographer. ISTR it
    saying something about a manual focus lens, but I guess I didn't read
    closely enough)
    Martin Francis, Nov 18, 2003
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  2. http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_440.html

    It has me drooling if it is as fast as it could be, that is virtually no
    shutter lag, and if it has a focusing system good enough to really see
    if it is in focus.

    The ISO limitation on a manual camera is really no problem if it shoots
    in RAW mode and if Adobe comes out with a RAW plugin for it.

    I did an experiment with my Olympus 5050 5MP camera taking it up to ISO
    12,800 in RAW mode and the results weren't too bad in B&W. Certainly
    good enough to capture the image and see what it was. Colors suffered
    badly and I couldn't rescue them at anything over ISO 1600. I'm just an
    old B&W guy anyway.

    Shot in my kitchen with 2 60watt incandescent bulbs in ceiling behind a
    frosted white dome. Camera and Sekonic L-398 Incident meter both said
    that for ISO 400 at f2.6 I needed 1/10 sec exposure.
    Here are the results:
    1/10 ISO 400
    1/20 ISO 800
    1/40 ISO 1600
    1/80 ISO 3200 http://tinyurl.com/vlud
    1/160 ISO 6400
    1/320 ISO 12,800 http://tinyurl.com/vluj
    Charlie Dilks, Nov 19, 2003
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  3. I made a typo when I labeled this shot. The picture says ISO 12,000,
    it's really 12,800. I don't want to change the picture since on that
    site, if I change a picture and give another one a similar name, it
    goofs up.
    Charlie Dilks, Nov 19, 2003
  4. Which is probably a Japanese lens with the name "Leica" on the
    front. The current Leica Digilux 1 apparently comes with the same
    7-21mm f:2.0:2.5 lens that came as a "Canon" lens on the G1 and the
    Casio QV-4000, a "Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar" on a Sony camera, and an
    "Epson Digital" on one of their cameras. See

    Which probably just means that the Japanese make some very nice lenses
    these days.

    Stephen H. Westin, Nov 19, 2003
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