other word for the shadow a flash gives behind a photographed subject

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Els, Apr 9, 2004.

  1. Els

    Els Guest

    Posted this one in alt.culture.language.english first, then
    realised that a photography group would be more approprate ;-)

    I'm looking for the correct term for the shadow in pictures,
    which only appears if the flash is directly aimed at the
    subject. Usually seems to be on the wall behind the subject.
    Can anyone help me with this?

    FWIW, the Dutch word is 'slagschaduw'.

    TIA
     
    Els, Apr 9, 2004
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  2. Posted this one in alt.culture.language.english first, then
    Over here in the New World we call it "shadow"
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Apr 9, 2004
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  3. Els

    Els Guest

    I know what a shadow is, and the word I'm looking for is a
    shadow too, but I'm quite positive there is a specific type
    of shadow, just can't remember the exact word.
     
    Els, Apr 9, 2004
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  4. Umbra or Penumbra.

    Dave



    | Posted this one in alt.culture.language.english first, then
    | realised that a photography group would be more approprate ;-)
    |
    | I'm looking for the correct term for the shadow in pictures,
    | which only appears if the flash is directly aimed at the
    | subject. Usually seems to be on the wall behind the subject.
    | Can anyone help me with this?
    |
    | FWIW, the Dutch word is 'slagschaduw'.
    |
    | TIA
    | --
    | Els
    |
    | Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
    | - Renato Russo -
    |
     
    David H. Lipman, Apr 9, 2004
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  5. Els

    Els Guest

    Although it isn't the word I was looking for, Googling for
    Penumbra and photography gave me the word: cast shadow.

    Thanks!
     
    Els, Apr 9, 2004
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  6. Els

    Jerry Guest

    PHANTOM, Shading, Darken, OBSCURE.
    I am sure you will do fine with Phantom or Obscure.
    Good Luck,

    Jerry

    PS. Feel free to make up a word also.
    By the way this is America.
    Dark Side, Darkness, Emptyness. Ooops! They already exist.
     
    Jerry, Apr 10, 2004
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  7. Els

    Michael Guest

    I think the word is " Oooops "
     
    Michael, Apr 10, 2004
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  8. Els

    Jerry Guest

    Faint might be used also.
    How might you use it? "|"
    Something like below. \/
    That part of the picture is faint = indistinct as in dim.
    I can't see that dim part of the photo.
    That part of the photo is so indistinct. What type of flash did you use?
    Next time use Bouncing Flash and this will not happen.

    That part of the photo is "PALE" because of the flash you were using.

    I have heard a Term Called "the Dark side of the Moon."
    Or the light "Casted a Shadow" I wonder what was betwixt the light and that
    wall? Dunno do you?
    Lets get the fudge outta here.

    I am sure if I sit here long enough I will come up with at least 60 - 70
    more werdz.
    But hey! They are just WORDS...............

    Again hope this helps,

    Jerry
     
    Jerry, Apr 10, 2004
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  9. Charles T. Low, Apr 10, 2004
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  10. Umbra and penumbra were my answers. They are created by a light source and an 'object in
    front' that causes a shadow behind and due to the width of the light source vs the width of
    the 'object in front', parallax causes a two shade shadow one darker the other. That's the
    umbra and penumbra.

    Dave



    | I wonder if you're thinking about one of the "umbra" words: umbra, penumbra,
    | or umbrage.
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    |
    | | > Posted this one in alt.culture.language.english first, then
    | > realised that a photography group would be more approprate ;-)
    | >
    | > I'm looking for the correct term for the shadow in pictures,
    | > which only appears if the flash is directly aimed at the
    | > subject. Usually seems to be on the wall behind the subject.
    | > Can anyone help me with this?
    | >
    | > FWIW, the Dutch word is 'slagschaduw'.
    | >
    | > TIA
    | > --
    | > Els
    | >
    | > Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito.
    | > - Renato Russo -
    | >
    |
    |
     
    David H. Lipman, Apr 10, 2004
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  11. Els

    Els Guest

    Yes, phantom sounds familiar.
    Thanks :)
    Well, 'this' might be, but I'm in Holland, and aiming to use
    British English ;-)
    :-D
     
    Els, Apr 10, 2004
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  12. Els

    Els Guest

    hmm.. the part of the photo I meant isn't exactly dim or
    faint, it's black :)
    My friend made the photo, she used an on-camera flash.
    True, but she had to shoot right then, to catch the moment :)
    True. One needs to see the picture ;-)
    The whole question came up because I had to translate (from
    Dutch into English) a jury report which explains why my
    friend won a certain award with a set of 6 pictures, taken
    at a concert and backstage afterwards.
    The whole lot (report and pictures) will be online later
    today, I'll post a link then.
     
    Els, Apr 10, 2004
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  13. Els

    Els Guest

    In a previous post I answered that I think the term I'm
    looking for is cast shadow, but then I read 'phantom shadow'
    in another post, and so, I'm in doubt again...
     
    Els, Apr 10, 2004
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  14. Els

    dadiOH Guest

    In reality, I don't think there is a specific word. Or modifier. "Cast"
    isn't it because all shadows are cast in the sense of being thrown.

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    dadiOH, Apr 11, 2004
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  15. Els

    Els Guest

    Yes, thought of that yesterday, and someone in
    alt.culture.language.english found the term back-shadow,
    which I now used in the online translation.
    She found it in
    http://www.danheller.com/tech-fillflash.html#2.1.2
    nearly at the bottom.

    If anyone is interested, the page I needed the word for is
    http://www.mediatech.nl/~rachel/Rachel/acda.html
    The Rob Acda Foto Award is an award for beginning concert
    photographers.
     
    Els, Apr 11, 2004
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